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At 6/30/2003 02:25 PM, Alex Matulich wrote:

If you have a dial-up connection, hang up the phone, and redail.  You'll
probably obtain a different IP address, which isn't blocked.


Alex -

I had the same thing happen to me when we were emailing last week. I did 
exactly what you say above and redailed, and the second try sending to you 
seemed to go through (and I never mentioned to you I had the problem with 
the first try). So, it seems you are exactly correct that at some point 
someone else on my ISP must have hit a spam filter and then I randomly got 
the same IP address on a dial up line.

When this happened I looked at the www.dnsbl.sorbs.net site. It says if you 
get on their blacklist you have to pay them to get off. It seems (from a 
very quick read) they give the spam filter software away for free, then if 
their spam software catches you in their net, you (or your ISP as the case 
may be) have to bribe them to get off the blacklist. Otherwise, anytime you 
send email to anyone that is using their free spam filter software (or the 
recipients ISP is using the spam filter software as the case may be) you 
will be blocked.

I thought this could be an interesting new concept in computer viruses. 
Rather than just mess up your computer, virus authors can mess up your 
computer then offer to restore your files for a bribe. But it might be a 
problem that this would be illegal and it would be hard to set up a payment 
system without giving away your identity. However, it seems this spam 
filter software got around that problem by doing it in a way that is not 
illegal.

The site also said something about Americans should stop whining about 
First Amendment rights :-). Here, these are the exact words from the site:

<<<<
Note: Americans, the First Amendment does not apply outside of the USA, nor 
should you cry for its direction....
>>>>

(The site seems to be in Australia... no offense to list members in Australia)

It did say that the money they make is going to a legal defense fund to 
help stop spamming. Even so, there has to be a better approach to stop 
spamming than this blackmail approach :-).

Seriously, now ISPs have to take complaints from their users that they are 
randomly getting bad IP addresses on dial up lines, then the ISP needs to 
determine which IP addresses are bad and bribe the spam filter software 
vendor. All because one of their customers sent an email with a word in the 
title that this spam filter doesn't like.

Bob Bolotin