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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : VK [mailto:vk@xxxxxxxxx]
> Envoyé : lundi 18 novembre 2002 10:31
> À : sirtrade@xxxxxxxxxx; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Objet : AW: Replacement for 2000i
>
>
> Pierre.
>
> I was expecting your very objective comments earlier and find my
> subjective comments below yours.....
Grumpf...
>
>
> [VK>>]
> I want nobody to quit TS, most people use both. But if I would start
> into this business I want to be informed and if somebody is asking for
> replacement it is the right for anyone who offers alternatives to speak
> out. Just as you were quick to recommend TS6.
>
Commercial hypocrisis at its best....
>
> [VK>>]
> You keep on talking about the web site. You did that month ago. When do
> YOU understand that there is a software that one can install on the
> desktop. I have some advantage over you, I used TS, MetaStock, Behold!,
> Excalibur, BackTrak, ..... you have never used WLD2 which is ok but
> gives you a disadvantage.
>
This means that you have been wrong (let me count) at least 5 times...
>
> [VK>>]
> You are right the language is more complicated then EL at the moment.
> But what do you say if we introduce drag and drop system development in
> our next version?
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!
Drag and drop systeme development ?
Are you trying to sell it at DisneyWorld ?
>
>
> [VK>>]
> Talking about true debugging, this will be introduced too and with the
> new version comes a new handbook that has many more functions disclosed.
Coming soon, as usual...
>
>
>
> [VK>>]
> It seems that EL is you only argument for TS? So would you then say if a
> software has a drag and drop programming possibility for simple system
> creation (like TS has with EL) then WLD2 is a real competitor?
HIHIHIHIHI!
I see that you are really focusing to high end users!
TS will probably not (fortunately) compete... Will it have drag and drop
debugging too ?
>
> [VK>>]
> See above, like to hear you comment then.
I'm sorry, I have too much laughed for today...
>
>
> [VK>>]
> Why do you say weak platform? It is not only portfolio optimisation but
> also portfolio level backtesting with portfolio level money management
> rules applicable on it.
Well, nice.
Please stay away with all your overfitting tools, thanks.
>
> [VK>>]
> Again the LANGUAGE. See above and is it the ONLY advantage of TS???
It is the main advantage, yes.
And more, it does not support drag and drop programming.
Well we know that you are not a programmer, so I may understand that you are
astonished by such nifty features.
>
> [VK>>]
> Thanks for inviting everybody over just imagine I would have done it.
> Please point them also to the over 500 systems published by the
> community as a base for discussion. I remember how difficult it is/was
> to get sample codes or lets take the open of tomorrow or the open in 10
> days (some people charge money for that).
>
Should you publish 100,000 trading systems...
Open in 10 days?....Yes, I see:
If open of 10 days ahead> close then buy tomorrow at market;
If success= true then buy a Disney World ticket and one big ice cream +
chocolate non stop;
else
buy one small ice cream at market;
end;
>
> FYI, so called WL advantages are feasible with TS. For example, walk
> forward
> optimisation that I use since 1993. Portfolio optimisation is feasible
> too,
> using even some public domain tools, not to speak of the Rina things. So
> excepted some nifty 3D graphics (also available with external tools),
>
> [VK>>]
> Like the once that one can buy from you?
===
Sorry, not for sale.
Mine works.
Thanks for giving me the
> opportunity again in letting everyone know (and you said it yourself)
> that ALL this is included in WL. So no more add ons, RINAs at least for
> the obvious things.
===
Never said that WL is of no interest.
I aside do not like the bad designed language, the aggressive commercial
behaviour and the systematic TS aggression.
Do we go advertise TS and critic WL in your WL forum ?
No.
So what are you doing here?
May I conclude that your mother forgot to teach you some elementary social
concepts ?
>
> [VK>>]
> I am getting bored that you talk about the programming language again.
> TS has one advantage, that is that EL is widely excepted. If I would
> start today learning to program I would go for WealthScript. Why,
> because it is just as easy if you start out with it and it gives you
> more power.
>
This is where you fail to understand, because you cannot understand
You cannot develop sophisticated systems with WL script unless having a medical
assistance.
Suffice to see the programming examples provided on the WL site.
They are true nightmares.
Sincerely,
Pierre Orphelin
www.sirtrade.com
Tradestation 2000i, TradeStation 6 sales and support
Safir-X, neurofuzzy logic trading system builder
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