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Hello List,
LM> Eskimo has implimented some more stringent checking of the
LM> validity of the senders of email, in an effort to reduce tha flood
LM> of spam we're all experiencing. These checks may affect some of
LM> you when you post to the list, if your ISP is not set up to
LM> provide inverse-DNS for their mail servers.
As you may know I run a couple of my own mail servers. I would urge
you to reconsider your implementation of ORDB. This method simply does
not work because it locks out many legitimate users who have a need to
run a mail server which can be accessed by legitimate remote clients.
The in flexibility of ORDB to only blacklist and not white list IP's
is criminal and has court presentence of being prosecuted for denial
of service.
See below the public will not stand for DOS from ISP's
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Here's the email that those of you with forward sight have been
fearing since the inception of ORBZ.
As of this moment, ORBZ is shutting down. DNS zones are going to stop
resolving, the website will disappear and mail will stop working (so
furthur discussion on this list probably won't work -- use NANAE).
I don't want to disappear in silence like ORBS, so I'll try for as
much description as possible without compromising my own position.
I received an official court notice this afternoon to turn over all
information relation to ORBZ accounts. This came from the 10th
Judicial District court of the State of Michigan. It appears that ORBZ
may be facing criminal charges for denial of service relating to the
Lotus Domino issue.
I was happy to try to weather any civil issues that may have come up,
and I was committed to seeing it through. However, the threat of jail
time is too much; I don't believe in this fight quite that much.
Thank you all for all your support. I sincerely hope that someone with
the goal of carrying on the mission of ORBZ pops up in another country
with a less foreboding legal system. Anyone who has copies of the
current zones may do with them what they wish.
For those of you stuck without good spam filtering, please consider
ORDB and SpamCop; they both provide excellent free solutions.
Ian Gulliver
ORBZ
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I say good riddance to the whole bunch of ORDB type services. There
has to be a better way - like they MUST have white list as well.
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The reason this will never work is that all anyone has to do is get a
dynamic ip - isp service and simply run the mail server from there.
What are they going to eventually block every IP? Yes that is where we
are headed with this madness. What's left is that whoever gets the old
IP winds up getting denied service because the IP they are using was
previously blacklisted. It's JUST STUPID and every wanna be admin geek
out there I guess must go down this road just as surely as the self
destruct newbies do at trading. The good spammers are not being
caught, they will never be caught. So I would suggest that individuals
simply get software like Spam Killer ect. and create white list and
black list based on personal preference. ISP's doing this for us is
the equivalent of big brother government saving me from myself with
tighter government control. I wanna be FREE!
LM> Jim
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Best regards,
Mark mailto:markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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