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Hello DB,

thanks for the update.  for me the question is--will the DTN internet
product be available by June 1?

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Best regards,
 Jim Johnson                           mailto:jejohn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Saturday, April 13, 2002, 2:31:03 PM, you wrote:

D> Mark and others,

D> I think I need to pubish our position here at the omega list as well as in
D> our dynastore-qc list because it concerns many people:

D> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
D> Hello all,

D> There are several rumours circulating about the possible influence of new
D> 'QDP' program rushed by Lycos/Quote.com for the 3rd party developers and
D> their programs.

D> The proposed changes will be effective June 1st and this means that any
D> existing version of Dynastore and Dynaloader for Quote.com will not work
D> after this date.

D> They offered us to subscribe to their new SDK starting May 1st and give us
D> _one_month_ to change the programs in accordance with new protocols. I.e.
D> the development and testing should be finished before 06/01/2002 and the
D> users should upgrade before this date to continue receive a data.
D> Earlier they offered just a "beta dll", but now this is changed to "new
D> SDK", i.e. will require a lot of extra work.

D> This 'QDP' program has also other non-acceptable conditions. I am personally
D> trying to get the answers on several questions before this new program will
D> be effective and still have no any positive answer from Quote.com (I can say
D> that I have no ONE answer except for the promise of Mr. Condra to "honestly"
D> answer my questions - this was a week ago).
D> Without answers, there is no sense to subscribe to this QDP thing except to
D> wake up and found that all these proposed "significant changes and
D> improvements" are just a big bubble and was implemented just to arise some
D> additional money for Lycos.

D> So until we have no positive replies from Lycos/Quote.com, I can say only
D> this:

D> 1. We'll try to keep the programs working (with or without QDP) anyway after
D> June 1st. However, the Dynastore/Dynaloader for QC are not guaranteed to
D> work after 06/01/2002.
D> 2. We're preparing the switch offers that will start May 1st and will allow
D> existing users to select from 2 or 3 alternative data feeds with a minimum
D> switch work and the maximum savings both from us (minimal or no cost for new
D> software at all) and the data vendors. The details are not finished yet and
D> will be posted as soon as possible.

D> I'll keep you all informed about all news and changes.

D> Regards,
D> DB

D> ---------------------------------------------------------------------





>> Hello ,
>>
>> No  More  Quote.com  for TS Users? That certainly looks like the case.
>> The  method  of  how QC is choosing to apparently dump their 3rd party
>> client base is nothing short of criminal. The only saving grace is the
>> hard  work  by  http://www.dynastorelight.com/  who  has  has  not yet
>> received  from  QC  the  information necessary to patch THE DS program
>> that has been discontinued.
>>
>> Ultimately anyway even if the patch is supplied, I am positive that QC
>> will continue to drive away 3rd party products by continually changing
>> the rules as they have done in the past. The equivalent of making them
>> jump  thru  hoops.  I  know this from fist hand experience myself as I
>> also  have been involved with QC's 3rd party debacles. So alternatives
>> are  being  programmed  now  for  competing feeds who want the TS user
>> business.
>>
>> In  my mind QC is soon to be a dead real time feed for TS users and so
>> no matter what the patches or promises, it would make sense to not get
>> lulled  into complacency by any short term patches to the QC feed. The
>> facts  seem  to  be that they consider us to be too much of a drain on
>> their  resources  to be chosen worthwhile as a client base. Fine I for
>> one will move on, and never trust QC again.
>>
>> I  am copying "Michael Condra" <mcondra@xxxxxxxxx> on this so they can
>> have  an  opportunity  to  come  here  and set the record strait. They
>> kicked  me  off  the  QChart  list  for asking these questions, though
>> Condra  wrote  me privately they still yet have answered any questions
>> as the deadline quickly approaches when we will be cut off.
>>
>> I strictly condemn, admonish QC for the short sighted lack of suppling
>> a  timely  transition  period for this to all take place. I guess they
>> would  just have us wake up one day and not get data. Note to this day
>> they have not publicly disclosed their intended actions. Rather I have
>> had to hunt them down, so be it I can play that game. QC needs to make
>> a statement YES we want your business NO go away we do not.
>>
>> But don't just jerk the data out from under me without a warning.
>>
>> ps I have 4 data feed sources because I never trust any of them.  Soon
>> there may be a exchange direct feed available for TS users.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Mark                          mailto:markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>