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Re: Rollover Orders



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In terms of reducing slippage the best order is a limit spread order.  In a 
deep liquid market it probably does not matter if you use a limit spread 
order paying the offer or selling the bid, or a market order.

However, in some markets there are some finer spread ticks that trade which 
give you greater refinement in your potential fill.

For example, the bonds trade in 32nds, but when you roll over the spot month 
may be traded in 1/4 of a 32nd.  Or emini S&Ps trade in 10 point increments 
as a Globex spread rather than the .25 you would pay executing both orders 
outright.

Many markets have traders who specialize in spreading.  Much of the 
Eurodollar trading is done as spreads with various dynamics and names for 
each.

The other thing to consider when rolling over is whether you will be exiting 
the position in the next few days.  If you are holding a long term position 
and will not be exiting your trade soon, you may be better off looking at the 
spread chart ahead of time and making a decision about an optimal spread 
price or timing.  The optimal point may not come the day before rollover.  In 
fact, that might be the worst day.  So you need to plan ahead, make a plan 
and execute that plan.

Regards,

John J. Lothian

Disclosure: Futures trading involves financial risk, lots of it!  John J. 
Lothian is the President of the Electronic Trading Division of The Price 
Futures Group, Inc., an Introducing Broker.



In a message dated 3/11/02 11:03:31 AM Central Standard Time, 
dickjohnson3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

<<  In terms of reducing slippage, does anyone know the best type of order to
 use at rollover? For example, is it best to use market orders to close the
 existing position and enter the new one. Or, would using a spread order to
 combine the two orders into one order reduce slippage. Seemingly, the latter
 would be preferable, but can the difference even be measured?
 Thanks,
 Trey Johnson >>