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Your points below are quite valid and I'm sure that there are a number of
developers out there who fit Mark Brown's description very well - he's
probably been exposed to some to spark those remarks. My point was merely
that those who would defend his right to publish an "incomplete" system
(...which I don't have a problem with - that's his right) should consider
that he is chastising others - developers in general - for doing the same.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Chan [mailto:stnahc@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:44 PM
To: Tom Nielsen; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Amazing, Incredible OddBall version performance ?
I do tend to agree what you quoted Mark saying that
"developers only want to deliver what they are capable of"
but must quantify that with a few extra points.
1. many, but not all, independent developers have this
problem due to lack of software enginnering background.
Everybody can learn to write programs, but when one is
writing a large program that requires multiple programmers,
testers, etc. then you need good software engineering
to enable efficient collaboration.
2. many programmers like to pull from their bag of tricks to
write code - sort of like a habit to solve certain type of
problem they will tend to use a specific solution.
If this developer has a bad habit in certain type of code,
and no quality assurance by testers, then the bad or
inefficient code will go to the hand of the user.
3. many programmers also like to use their first impression of
a problem to code a solution. When they are down at middle
of the coding and find that it is not a good solution at all,
they will patch the solution to make it fit.
With good planning, and willingness to dump code, good
solutions can be created.
4. But remember, the cost to produce software is so high that
many programmers are pressed by time constrain, limited by
available resources (you can only type so much an hour!) and
worst of all, unclear objective from the boss (I want to create
the best trading software around! - but what define best?!) :)
Lawrence Chan
http://www.tickquest.com
--- Tom Nielsen <tnielsen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> List,
>
> whereas I fully agree with the comments regarding posting private emails
> publicly without all parties of the correspondence giving prior consent to
> it (...VERY bad form!), the illustrious Mr. Brown did sort of leave
himself
> open to such comments:
>
> Mark Brown, 30th January 2002, on this list: "Otherwise I always wonder
what
> keeps a developer from listening to what the public wants and simply
> delivering it. Well on second thought having lived "barely" thru the
> TradeWare debacle. I can tell you what the problem is, developers only
want
> to deliver what they are capable of, they are hard headed and will refuse
to
> collaborate to create the perfect solution. So basically all you will ever
> get is compromise.".
>
> Even though this comment was made in relation to system development
> platforms, I think it's fair to say that it fits quite well. What goes
> around...
>
> Tom (a "developer")
>
> P.S.: I also agree with the comments saying (basically, anyway) that the
guy
> who started this thread should pull himself together and figure the thing
> out himself. If you expect to have the perfect solution handed to you on a
> silver platter for free, you're going to die poor...
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