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My point is that walking forward optimizing could just get you on the wrong
side of the cycle when there are other market factors involved. include them
and you filter out(or demodulate) the signal.
Jim Bronke
Phoenix, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Roos" <rosewood@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Omega-list" <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Jim Bronke" <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: <avinojr@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Walk forward optimization
: Jim and Alex:
:
: Walk forward optimizing and the use of a spread relationship for a system
: screen are totally different topics which should be considered separately,
: imho.
:
: In a short period of a few months of testing walk forward optimizing of a
: successful system versus a set of parameters that were not changed, I
found
: that the walk forward optimizing did much worse than the 2 yr optimization
I
: had done and then left unchanged. This is not enough length of the WFO to
: be certain, but the info was enough for me, at the time, to consider other
: projects as more important.
:
: As far as the topic of the use of a spread relationship as a system
screen,
: it certainly may be and can be helpful at times when the seasonality is in
: favor of the system parameters. However, when your system parameters are
: contraseasonal, you will have bad results. Doing testing of the seasonal
: relationships of the spread over a long period (Moore Research uses 15
yrs)
: could be programmed into a system and would be much more useful as a
system
: screen than one without seasonality considered.
:
: Thanks,
:
: Don
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Jim Bronke" <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx>
: To: "Alex Vinogradov" <avinojr@xxxxxxxxx>; <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:50 AM
: Subject: Re: Walk forward optimization
:
:
: For example, in his book Cybernetic Trading, Ruggerio mentions a
: relationship between Crude oil and the dollar. The solution is to add the
: dollar as a data2 if you see that you can add that to your system in a way
: that increases your return.
:
: Jim Bronke
: Phoenix, AZ
:
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Alex Vinogradov" <avinojr@xxxxxxxxx>
: To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:40 AM
: Subject: Re: Walk forward optimization
:
:
: : Hi Jim,
: :
: : Could you elaborate on that a little bit? I've just
: : spent a bit (more that I should have) of time working
: : with a walk-forward optimization protocol, only to
: : conclude that it produces little more than confusion.
: : What are your thoughts?
: :
: : Thanks in advance,
: :
: : Alex Vinogradov
: : Miami, FL
: :
: : --- Jim Bronke <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
: : > It is better to include new relationships than to
: : > walk forward old ones:
: : >
: : > Jim Bronke
: : > Phoenix, AZ
: : >
: : >
: : >
: : > ----- Original Message -----
: : > From: "David Folster" <mr_bond@xxxxxxxxx>
: : > To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
: : > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 9:06 PM
: : > Subject: Walk forward optimization
: : >
: : >
: : > : Anyone have an opinion, good or bad, on walk
: : > forward optimization?
: : > :
: : > : Thanks,
: : > :
: : > : David
: : > :
: : > :
: : >
: : >
: :
: :
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