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Big Question :
How robust are the internal system variables for signal support........
1) Position array (positionprofit,entryprice,etc)
2) WhichExit / WhichEntry variables to tell which entry or exit was
triggered ?
3) permits signals to be evaluated each tick ?
4) any nifty variables like MAE or MFE to be easily accessed during the
trade ?
These are all limitations of TS2000i BTW.....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John O. Romero [mailto:jromero@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:53 PM
> To: Michael Berger; OmegaList
> Subject: Re: RANKINGS was Is it time to find a BETTER toolbox?
>
>
> To All,
>
> I don't know if this is of interest to all, so if there are any
> objections,
> We can take this offline or to another place.
>
> First, I am just a customer that converted from TS4. I did not go
> to 2000i.
>
> I have not tried to use the pattern scanner yet, so I don't have any
> comments on it. The entire documentation is available at their website,
> for those of you who wish to see all it can do.
>
> Relative to the 8 variables - It used to be only 4 - but has been
> upgraded
> to 8 with V2. Also, that is a true statement only when using their script
> support. If you were to write your code in VB, you can have your own
> popup window to interface for variable / parameter input. Another way
> around that is that a variable can be any string combination that could
> later be parsed in your indicator. That is a more technical
> approach, but
> a work around. I have only one instance where I need more than 8 inputs.
>
> Until V2 they did not support writing user code in anything but
> the script
> languages. Now you can write in any language that supports either DLL or
> ActiveX. They have samples for each. All you would have to do is use
> their shell of the ActiveX and fill in your logic. In my case, I can now
> use the full debugging capabilities of VB6's IDE, (breakpoints, variable
> watches, etc....).
> The only thing I have to compare to is TS4. I would say it id at
> least as
> fast.
>
> As I said, before. I am a user. I started at ver 1.0 then 1.1, 1.2, 1.3
> and now 2.0 I started in Feb of this year. They have a user
> forum that is
> open to the public so you can see what people have asked and complained
> about. Also ask any questions you would like there.
>
> John
>
> At 01:05 PM 7/19/2001, Michael Berger wrote:
> >Agree, I'm curious, too.
> >
> >Just spent a few minutes at www.neoticker.com
> >
> >1. The seem to have limited backtesting, but I don't see
> >optimization.
> >
> >2. There are a max of 8 variables.
> >
> >3. They use a scripting language, as wealth-lab does, so it
> >might also have speed issues.
> >
> >
> >Anybody with first-hand knowledge?
> >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bill Wynne" <tradewynne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <fritz@xxxxxxxx>; <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 12:59 PM
> >Subject: Re: RANKINGS was Is it time to find a BETTER
> >toolbox?
> >
> >
> > > I'm curious to hear more about Neoticker from
> > > folks who've actually used it. In particular,
> > > I'm interested in the pattern search deal.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > BW
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Gary Fritz" <fritz@xxxxxxxx>
> > > >Reply-To: fritz@xxxxxxxx
> > > >To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: Re: RANKINGS was Is it time to find a BETTER
> >toolbox?
> > > >Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:22:53 -0600
> > > >
> > > > > What I am saying here is that if I had the balls to
> > > > > translate my Easylanguage routines that my first pick
> > > > > would be Metastock.
> > > >
> > > >I've looked into this, and several friends of mine have
> >been using
> > > >Metastock for quite a while. It has nice charting
> >features but its
> > > >language is really crude and limited. Several of my
> >local Metastock
> > > >friends have ended up buying TS4 or TS2k so they could
> >experiment
> > > >with things they just can't express (or can't express
> >without extreme
> > > >pain) in Metastock.
> > > >
> > > >So I wouldn't put that at #1 unless you plan to do all
> >your work in
> > > >DLL's, and I strongly suspect you will be limited with
> >what you can
> > > >do then. (Because the DLL's won't be hooked into the
> >guts of the
> > > >Metastock engine the way the MS language is.)
> > > >
> > > >On the other hand, several people have written plug-in
> >additions for
> > > >MS to do things like portfolio testing, and I think you
> >drive those
> > > >with DLL code. So maybe with add-ins like that, MS could
> >be a
> > > >reasonable alternative. Maybe.
> > > >
> > > > > #2 Neoticker (never used, just based upon your words)
> > > >
> > > >This one looks promising, and Lawrence seems very willing
> >to work
> > > >with users to improve it. They've just released the
> >realtime
> > > >version. You can use VBscript, Javascript, or
> >Delphiscript, so the
> > > >language should be no problem as long as they've thought
> >out the data
> > > >model & libraries properly. The portfolio testing
> >capabilities seem
> > > >very limited, though. As far as I can tell, you can run
> >a system on
> > > >a basket of symbols, but I don't see any decent portfolio
> >reports and
> > > >statistics, or portfolio optimization features. That
> >might be there
> > > >and I just didn't see it.
> > > >
> > > > > #4 http://www.Ravenquote.com
> > > >
> > > >This has no backtesting capabilities, does it? I think
> >it's just a
> > > >feature-rich charting app with scanning capabilities.
> > > >
> > > > > #4 http://www.cqg.com
> > > >
> > > >Could be useful, but the programming language is very
> >cryptic and
> > > >somewhat limited. And you're tied into one data vendor,
> >excellent
> > > >though CQG may be.
> > > >
> > > > > #5 Tradestation 2000i
> > > >
> > > >No thanks.
> > > >
> > > > > #6 http://www.linnsoft.com
> > > >
> > > >Can't tell for sure, but the language looks pretty
> >primitive. No
> > > >portfolio capabilities.
> > > >
> > > > > #7 http://www.lmt-expo.com
> > > >
> > > >This appears to be based on Unix, except the
> >student/academic
> > > >version. No indication of cost. Looks like it has a lot
> >of powerful
> > > >math support, but I think the programming language may be
> >basic Excel-
> > > >like functions. Hard to tell what the feature set is.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Someone recently pointed me to http://www.wealth-lab.com.
> >This is an
> > > >interesting "trading community" site that supports an
> >online system
> > > >testing facility. Some people have been nervous about
> >the site, not
> > > >wanting to submit their system code to a website. But it
> >turns out
> > > >there is also a stand-alone "desktop" version, and they
> >are actively
> > > >working to improve it. Currently stocks only, but
> >futures are
> > > >coming. They say by the end of the year they'll have
> >portfolio-
> > > >testing capabilities to match anything Trading Recipes
> >can offer,
> > > >which is saying a LOT. Not bad for $300, and there is a
> >free
> > > >downloadable demo. I haven't tried it yet.
> > > >
> > > >http://www.amibroker.com/ has a lot of fans, but so far
> >it's only
> > > >EOD, and I think stocks only. Realtime is scheduled for
> >the end of
> > > >the year. Portfolio testing is supposed to be possible.
> >No examples
> > > >of the language but it's supposed to be extensible with
> > > >VBscript/Jscript. Only $69.
> > > >
> > > >Gary
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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