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Some final notes on dual processors and whether they add value or not. When
running an optimization ts32.exe is the executable running and it uses only
one processor. However, the server.exe is a separate process that will use a
different processor if necessary, from what I can tell. As well as ORRadar
and wirelessserver.exe(used for WinBeep). Probably the most potentially
damaging conflict that I can see with running one processor is that this
WinBeep program typically ties up a processor 46-50% when it is paging. Why
this program would need to do this is beyond me, but, it definitely has the
potential to hose up your program. If you're running hourly bars all your
calculations and paging happens at the same time. At least you know with the
dual processors that everything else can run separately while the pages are
going out.
Some further notes to those who will bash Omega R. These are the types of
problems that typically plague any new code. It takes incredibly sized
staffs to research it all. Unfortunately as users we become part of the
testing process. You gotta live with it. This software probably would have
cost $50000 if they had the staff they needed.
Jim Bronke
Phoenix, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Pope" <gene@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: XEON Processor better for TS ?
> The reason I still have my twin Xeon is just for what you speak, running
> lots of different applications at once. I can run RealTick, Ravenquote,
> eSignal, Outlook, Lotus Organizer, IE, OmniTrader, Paltalk, and write a
> paper at the same time, so it makes for a good "all round" system. Your
> Global Server and RadarScreen should also run as different "processes" so
> you may be OK. (at least, I hope... ;-)
>
> Best regards,
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Bronke" <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "Gene Pope" <gene@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Mark
Cerar"
> <marQc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:17 PM
> Subject: Re: XEON Processor better for TS ?
>
>
> > Its only running at 50%. so that answers that. I wasted some money on
that
> > extra processor I guess. I'm sure if I run something else it is handy to
> > have that extra processor. I wonder of the Global Server or the
> Radarscreen
> > can use the other. Wishful thinking. I'll watch these closer when the
> market
> > is open.
> > thanks
> >
> > Jim Bronke
> > Phoenix, AZ
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gene Pope" <gene@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Jim Bronke" <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx>; <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Mark
> Cerar"
> > <marQc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: XEON Processor better for TS ?
> >
> >
> > > There is a simple way to test whether both CPU's are being used, if
> using
> > > Win2000 or NT.
> > >
> > > Start a decent length backtest with nothing else running.
> > >
> > > Press <ctrl><alt><delete> and then select Task Manager.
> > >
> > > Select the "Processes" tab and click on the CPU column to sort it high
> to
> > > low.
> > >
> > > You'll see the TS task running. If it is maxing out at 50% CPU, then
it
> is
> > > not using both CPU's. It will only go above 50% if it can thread
between
> > the
> > > two. Also tab over to "Performance"... if TS is using both processors,
> > > you'll get a number much higher than 50%, otherwise you'll get the 50%
> > plus
> > > the OS overhead only on the other cpu.
> > >
> > > I'd do this test myself, but unfortunately, my TS Pro license isn't on
> my
> > > twin Xeon machine... sorry.
> > >
> > > Let us know the results. Programs like Seti@xxxx will take over 99% or
> > more
> > > of the CPU time on a multiprocessor system, showing that it is getting
> max
> > > use of the system.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Gene
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jim Bronke" <jvbronke@xxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Mark Cerar" <marQc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:12 PM
> > > Subject: Re: XEON Processor better for TS ?
> > >
> > >
> > > > My impression of the TS2000i with more than one processor is that it
> > > didn't
> > > > have to be designed with multiple processors in mind. The processors
> > just
> > > > shre the tasks that appear on the bus. I am no processor expert,
> > however,
> > > > but my dual P does scream compared to the AMD 333 that I was running
> > Win98
> > > > on. Someday I'll run a benchmark with two and then just remove one.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jim Bronke
> > > > Phoenix, AZ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mark Cerar" <marQc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:29 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: XEON Processor better for TS ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I believe that TS2000i can take advantage of up to 8 cpu's at
least
> > > > > according to the information I once read on the OR website.
Whether
> > > it's
> > > > > true or not however is another story. I understand that the issue
> of
> > > > > multi-threading is somewhat complex and it has to be implemented
> very
> > > > > carefully in order to work properly. I have never read any post
on
> > this
> > > > > list where a contributor mentions using more than 2.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Gene Pope [mailto:gene@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: June 5, 2001 3:23 PM
> > > > > To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: Re: XEON Processor better for TS ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The question is whether TS2K is "multi-cpu" aware... if not, then
> > you're
> > > > not
> > > > > doing diddly with that second CPU. Because of that, I went to max
> out
> > a
> > > > > single CPU system over what I had previous which was twin-Xeon.
> Mostly
> > > all
> > > > > my other financial softs only take advantage of 1 cpu as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gene
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ian MacAuslan" <imacauslan@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 12:55 PM
> > > > > Subject: XEON Processor better for TS ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone had experience running TS2K or TS4 on a Xeon processor?
Am
> > > > > > considering getting a new computer to replace my Pentium
III-550,
> > and
> > > > > > have read the Pentium III XEON 850 MHz processor (with 1024 MB
of
> > L-2
> > > > > > cache on the chip die) will still run rings around a Pentium 4
1.5
> > GHz
> > > > > > chip.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Xeons are used primarily in servers--I presume for the heavy I/O
> and
> > > > > > number-crunching requirements...both of which seem very relevant
> to
> > my
> > > > > > TS setup, in which I'm collecting real-time tick data on the
> entire
> > > NYSE
> > > > > > and having about 80 charts open, with indicators and strategies
> > > applied.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > -Ian MacAuslan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > imacauslan@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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