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The Trend is your friend until it disappears......and then, that friend can
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerald Marisch [mailto:gm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:48 AM
> To: Thomas Alexander; Don Roos; Sylvain Bergfeld; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: ELA files
>
>
> "Death comes without warning, this body will become a corpse."
>
> Ah yes...
>
> And traders say. "The Trend is Your Friend".
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Alexander" <alexander_enterprises@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Don Roos" <rosewood@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Sylvain Bergfeld"
> <zfrench@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: ELA files
>
>
> > Well, my email certainly evoked some interesting responses!
> > Strangely enough, and this is rare indeed, I agree with all
> > of them :)
> >
> > While my throat still stings from previous snake oil
> > purchases, I still believe it is a matter of scale (read
> > "money" here)and timing (read "I'm getting old" here).
> > Someone mentioned 180k in two years. I already make that in
> > my day job and I believe that to be small scale. Given the
> > choice of working for two years with a small account and
> > making reasonable but small gains or working with a big
> > account and making big gains in a shorter time frame (with
> > obviously more DD risk) then I would choose the shorter
> > time frame. Why wait?
> >
> > As the Buddhists say, "Death comes without warning, this
> > body will become a corpse."
> >
> > But only having done this for a few years and still in the
> > hole, I'm new to the game and perhaps look with untrained
> > and unexperienced eyes :)
> >
> > Thank you everyone that replied for your insights! They
> > help round me out.
> >
> > ta
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Don Roos <rosewood@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > It's not that simple: you sell your system for a few 10
> > > grand checks and you
> > > think you are ahead, but soon your system sucks and what
> > > do you have: a
> > > meager producer and the need to write another mega
> > > winner.  Instead, take
> > > your excellent system and start with 10 grand, trade 4
> > > minis with a 6kdd and
> > > make 180k over 2 yrs.  And you still have your system
> > > after all of that:
> > > Add it up and see what you think is better.  The system I
> > > refer to is not
> > > sold as snake oil and is still private.
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thomas Alexander"
> > > <alexander_enterprises@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "Don Roos" <rosewood@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Sylvain
> > > Bergfeld"
> > > <zfrench@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:34 PM
> > > Subject: Re: ELA files
> > >
> > >
> > > It's really simple.
> > >
> > > The reason is account size!
> > >
> > > If a system writer has $100,000 to trade with then sure
> > > they don't need to sell their system or set up a trading
> > > fund using it etc. But, those who don't have 100K trading
> > > accounts to start, well, another source of income is
> > > needed
> > > till the account size is large enough to support one.
> > > Either that or marry well :)
> > >
> > > ta
> > > --- Don Roos <rosewood@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Sylvia:
> > > >
> > > > Why would you compromise your system for the goal of
> > > > testing it.  You can
> > > > easily do that yourself or hire an individual you can
> > > > trust.  So I assume
> > > > there must be another goal related to publicity.  And
> > > > that goes to the heart
> > > > of why most experienced traders consider systems that
> > > are
> > > > being sold for
> > > > profit as snake oil:  if someone has such a good
> > > system,
> > > > the thinking goes,
> > > > why would you compromise it so that you can sell it to
> > > > inexperienced traders
> > > > rather than trade it yourself.  One would expect the
> > > > profits can be much
> > > > better if you trade it yourself over a longer period
> > > > rather than a short
> > > > period of snake oil sales.  Thus, I will continue to be
> > > > very suspicious of
> > > > systems sold for profit.  Similarly indicators.  So if
> > > > you have something
> > > > that good, why not keep it that way?
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "William Brower" <1000mileman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: "Sylvain Bergfeld" <zfrench@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > > > <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 7:40 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: ELA files
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You will need to disclose the rules so they can program
> > > > it into
> > > > Excaliber.  They may also add it to their portfolio of
> > > > systems that they
> > > > will trade when managing money.  You will not get
> > > > anything from them if
> > > > they do.
> > > >
> > > > At 09:08 AM 3/27/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Hello,
> > > > >I would like to submit my system for independent
> > > testing
> > > > with Futuretruth.
> > > > >
> > > > >I have 2 questions:
> > > > >   a.. Does anybody have an opinion about Futuretruth
> > > > and would you
> > > > recommend
> > > > >another service?
> > > > >   b.. How safe is it to send my system in the ELA
> > > > format (is it possible
> > > > for
> > > > >them to open it and see my formula)?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thank you,
> > > > >Sylvain Bergfeld
> > > > >www.alterama.com
> > > >
> > > > Bill Brower
> > > > Email: 1000mileman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Web Site: insideedge.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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