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Re: Evaluation of commercially sold tradesystems



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I think that Mark's comments concerning trader discipline to be right on the
point.  I have myself regularly closed trades early or have not taken signals
from systems that are robust and performing properly.  It is very difficult to
not second guess the system.  And yet, over and over again it has proven
better to stay with the system.  It is very difficult, particularly in periods
when draw downs occur.
Lawrence Price

Larry Winbauer wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> Are any of the systems that you feel are tradeable available
> commercially or are they proprietary systems? Can you name any? If not
> tell us generally methodologies?
>
> I trust some are long term (weeks and months in a position) and some are
> short term (days and weeks), and some are daytrading systems. Which do
> you prefer and why?
>
> By the way, thank you for pointing out that futures truth is not so
> truthful. Someone can lie or mislead by telling an untruth or by
> omission of known facts. Not disclosing somehthing is as big lie as
> outright misleading someone.
>
> Larry Winbauer
>
> Mark Brown wrote:
> >
> > Hello  Alex,
> >
> > AA> So, I'd appreciate some feedback on my question.
> >
> > AA> Alex.
> >
> > i  would  defiantly  NOT  belive ANYTHING that Futures Truth puts out.
> > They  have  flat  out  misrepresented  systems  in  the  past  such as
> > Aberration and Catscan  -  specifically failing to disclosed that the
> > developers of these systems curve fitted to keep ranking up and yet
> > this was not fully disclosed.
> >
> > what  gets  me  in  this  business  is that people have hard time from
> > separating  a  good feeling that they have personally for someone with
> > how  their  stuff  performs.  many people like larry williams and i'm
> > sure  he a charismatic type guy so what does the stuff work and hold up?
> > tom  demark  is  an  impressionable guy and george lane and on and on
> > name a million of them here.
> >
> > this is a black and white numbers game - either it works or it doesn't.
> > i  have  many  systems  that i feel are very tradable and will hold up
> > over  the long term - what usually blows up is the traders willingness
> > to  stick  with  it.  that willingness is directly correlated with how
> > thorough  a  trader understands what it is they are doing and how they
> > are  employing  that  system/ method ect.  it takes years and years of
> > hard  work  to even understand yourself and many never get it. in fact
> > most  never  will  get  it  - it takes an inverse thinker to trade the
> > markets  with  long  term  success,  and  most  models  are focused on
> > pleasing the short term objectives of "the public".
> >
> > i  guess  what many people are after is who makes me feel the best and
> > special?  and thats usually NOT what makes money.
> >
> > we can discuss all the models you want name some..
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >   Mark Brown   mailto:markbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >   Y = Offset + Amplitude * sin(Frequency * X)