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The problem with Java is that it does not 'really'
just run on any computer.
In plain english, every browser thats 'java-enabled'
basically has a 'translator' built in or added to it.
The problem is that whoever is writting your
browser/opperating system has to write this
'java-translator' and and has to adhere to Sun's specs
on the language. And if any of the computer Gods
decides to rebell against Sun, then everyone else
suffers. Like what Microsoft went through last year
with their Java battle in court.
If Microsoft would have won, we all would have been
forced to use two browsers and have to figure out what
browser works with what sites.
Who is to say someone else wont disagree with Sun
tomorrow? why should Sun control the 'internet' based
applications vs. Microsoft? will they do any different
or better? I don't think so, or at the very least I
don't want to find out! I agree that Java -or anything
that works like java- is not the solution...
H
--- "[ tradergirl ]" <tradergirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Think waste of time. If Java had a trading symbol
> on the CME, I would start
> betting short, my whole entire portfolio against it?
> Why? Because it is an
> invention of truly sick minds. I refused in school
> to touch it, and told my
> professor I will not program in a non-GNU based
> language. I will only
> program in GCC if anything. He agreed. He
> reluctantly agreed.
>
> Why aren't you supporting Open Source? Why are you
> backing a proprietary
> programming language, is my question? Why on earth
> would you support Sun in
> its attempts to create a language they control?
> Because it is scalable
> across a bunch of platforms? Who needs a bunch of
> platforms? I want
> Microsoft and Macs to die. I want free operating
> systems to thrive, and
> right now, if you think programming or modifying
> C/C++ is tough, then that
> is your opinion, but 30,000 developers right this
> second are on SourceForge,
> and Freshmeat.net, and doing just fine.
>
> Let me also say, Bill Joy, their Java/Jinni guy over
> @ sun is the stupidist
> ass I have come across. Read his article in WIRED
> last month? He thinks
> Terminator styled Borgs will be here within 20 years
> and we will all be
> enslaved by them. You think this turkey know what
> he is talking about?
>
> I liken Java to Prolog. Both were complete junk
> from the beginning.
>
> -TraderGirl
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "M. Simms" <prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ tradergirl ]"
> <tradergirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; "OX"
> <enchant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 8:09 AM
> Subject: RE: ATT:Tradergirl!! (LINUX DOWNLOAD $0)
>
>
> > Think JAVA, not Linux. Someday, SOMEONE will build
> a great MULTIPLATFORM
> > trading system and it will be in JAVA. Many
> Linux-based solutions are
> > written in C++.....fast, but totally non-portable.
> AND a "bear" to
> maintain
> > and modify !!
>
> Bear to modify? Go look at SOURCEFORGE.NET, or
> FRESHMEAT.NET
> there are currently like 30,000 open source
> developers working with C/C++
> right now, on tons of projects, all working
> together, for FREE SOFTWARE.
> $0
>
> >
> > Formula One 7.0 from www.tidestone.com has a
> terrific, Excel-compatible
> > spreadsheet program.
> > It runs EVERYWHERE.....Linux, Solaris, MAC,
> Windows, etc.
> >
> > Systems requirements: only 1 megabyte plus the
> most recent Java "JVM 2.0".
> > Contact Tidestone and you should inquire as to
> vars and programmers who
> have
> > customized it for a trading application. Why ?
> Unfortunately, you must
> know
> > Java to customize it.
>
> Notice how Sun is moving hard into their Jinni deal?
> Sort of moving head
> on,
> as sort of soon to be overshadowing Java?
>
>
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [ tradergirl ]
> [mailto:tradergirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 1:09 AM
> > > To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx; OX
> > > Subject: Re: ATT:Tradergirl!! (LINUX DOWNLOAD
> $0)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "OX" <enchant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ tradergirl ]"
> <tradergirl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 7:16 PM
> > > Subject: ATT:Tradergirl!!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Trader Girl....
> > > >
> > > > can I ask if there is a Linux package that is
> equall too or better the
> > > > MS XL spreadsheet?
> > >
> > >
> > > do a search on:
> > >
> > > www.freshmeat.net
> > >
> > > There will be a bunch of them, I am sure. Or,
> just download or
> > > get StarOffice, it is like identical to
> Microsoft Office 2000 Pro, and
> has
> > > a built in WebBrowser, Word Processor,
> Spreadsheet, etc. etc. etc.
> > >
> > > It is a 70meg download from www.sun.com - or you
> can order the entire
> > > software on CD for $5, OR-- and get the manual,
> I think for $15.
> > >
> > > > thank you and kind regards
> > > > Stephen from Australia......!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > and what version and package of Linux do you
> recoomend to run?
> > >
> > > Corel or Caldera is you are an end-user (even
> RedHat is good)
> > > Redhat, Mandrake, SuSE, Debian, if you want more
> raw joy.
> > >
> > > Corel is the most user friendly right now, and
> includes Word Perfect
> > > Office Suite Pro on it.
> > >
> > > I use Mandrake now, but that is only because I
> have a DualPentium
> > > Linux box, and it can take advantage of
> two-processors simultaneously.
> > >
> > > TraderGirl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
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