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Well, I've been cursed. Now TS2k has crashed on my Windows 2000 machine. I
had Radarscreen running and then opened a chart and it crashed and burned.
:(
ugh
-IMarshal
-----Original Message-----
From: M. Simms [mailto:prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:17 AM
To: imarshal@xxxxxxxxxx; Omega Research; Stuart Evens
Subject: RE: Anyone using Option Station?
All good points........BUT Omega was not "upfront" about the requirement for
Windows NT, 256 meg RAM, and a 450 Mhz processor......and that's just for
Back-testing !!!!
At level SP3, I still cannot test continuously during the day with other
applications running under Windows98.......Omega consumes all memory and
does not "behave" like a good citizen.....it steals the memory and does not
relinquish it.
This indicates POOR PROGRAMMING of the TS2K kernel...and the memory
allocation modules.
In addition, by using call-by-reference parameters in function calls, I can
make SP3's TS32.EXE crash at any time....there is still terribly flaky code
supporting this important feature.
I have run MANY very complex programs under Win98......Adobe Photoshop 5 &
5.5....Macromedia Shockwave, Macromedia Flash.....all memory "hogs".
Never was there EVER the extent of crashes or GPFs experienced as has been
with TSY2k.
Omega's direction is clear.......there is now only token support for
TSY2k......most of the resources are going into the development of internet
trading platform.
Oh.....and by the way.....I have been rejected as a beta tester......
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IMarshal [mailto:imarshal@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 5:19 PM
> To: Omega Research; Stuart Evens
> Subject: RE: Anyone using Option Station?
>
>
> I felt I had to comment on this just to be fair. I am a software
> developer,
> have been programmer either for a job or as a hobby since I was 12.
>
> I own TS2k as most others here on the list but unfortunately am
> dissapointed
> with the product. As a developer I'm aware of the complexities
> involved in
> creating such products...as well as the deadline requirements
> imposed on you
> by the "management". TS2k is a good idea, to a large degree, but
> so far I'm
> not exstatic about their implementation.
>
> However, just to be fair, in regards to Stuart's note about TS2k crashing
> due to low resources I feel I should make a quick comment
> (hopefully without
> getting too technical).
>
> Windows 95/98 uses a 16bit kernel (still) and therefore carries some
> unfortunate legacy problems with it. Windows NT on the other
> hand does not.
> I have used TS2k under both systems and can say I have experienced fewer
> crashes under NT in comparison to 98. Now I think I should also add that
> NOT A DAY goes by that I havent crashed 98. It's THAT bad imho. I am now
> using Windows 2k with TS2k (SP3) and it hasn't crashed yet. But I am not
> running in real-time mode right now - if that makes a big
> difference (which
> it can). I have used it on some occasions in real-time mode but
> not to any
> degree.
>
> Windows 95/98 impose "resource" limitations. Resources are used up
> everytime a windows on control is created (in some cases controls
> - not all
> the time), database connections (which ts2k uses a lot of), etc. Even a
> product (which is FAR superior technically imho than TS2k) such
> as 3D Studio
> Max running under Win98 can run out of resources resulting in a
> crash. Now
> there is a patch that just came out for Max to fix the majority of this
> problem - so yes, it is possible to get it to work but can be somewhat
> complicated in some areas.
>
> I guess what I'm trying to say Stuart is that this is an intrinsic problem
> to Windows 95/98. Now I'm not disputing that some people believe
> TS2k isn't
> written as well as it could or should be. But I do want to state
> this fact,
> so that you can continue to be objective on this matter.
>
> -Joe
>
> PS. Wanna buy my copy of TS2k? :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart Evens [mailto:karlfrye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 1:46 PM
> To: Omega List
> Subject: Re: Anyone using Option Station?
>
>
> Hey John, you doing this review???
>
> I prepared a number of reviews on RadarScreen 2000i for my prior employer.
> One of these reviews in my opinion was, as I was told by the
> interim editor,
> pulled at
> Bill Cruz's request. As it was told to me, Mr. Cruz called the Interim
> Editor on his personal cell phone with the request. If I'm wrong on this
> point, maybe Mr Sweeney can correct me. The last review I did was on build
> 693, a CD which was
> apparently Fed Exed from Mr. Cruz, supposedly with fixes to the "issues" i
> mentioned in the review that was pulled. Mr. Hutson and Mr Sweeney hand
> delivered the CD to my desk, along with a comment from the publisher that,
> in my opinion
> implied that i had to take a lot on faith. I don't think so!
>
> The culminating event, in my opinion, which resulted in my departure from
> TASC was when Mr. Hutson and I were fighting, in my opinion, over
> the cause
> of crashes in PS2000i due to low user resources. I told Mr. Hutson that I
> was not going to blame Microsoft operating systems for the
> problem, as I did
> not know that to be a fact, and did not have the resources to
> defend myself
> in a libel/slander action if Bill took exception to my statement. I gave
> Mr. Hutson 3 options, apparently one of which he took since no
> individual is
> taking credit for the R/S 2k review. He also took option #4 and fired me.
> BTW, RadarScreen 2000i was part of what I uninstalled along with
> P/S 2ki. In
> my opinion, they are both garbage. I've gone back to basics; the TEM
> system.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Stu Evens
> Ex TASC staff writer
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Sweeney S&C
> To: Chris Baker
> Cc: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Anyone using Option Station?
>
>
> Thanks for the idea but that's what we've been doing since 1981. Those we
> look at are covered in reviews. The Reader's Choice awards are from
> "READERS" not from S&C staff.
>
> John
>
> >I've never used OS 2000I and don't subscribe to TASC, but perhaps e-mails
> >from Omega users to TASC staff (like John Sweeney) convinced
> TASC technical
> >staff to actually try the products they were giving their highest awards
> to.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: M. Simms <prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: Lawrence Chan <stnahc@xxxxxxxxx>; Omega List <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 5:22 PM
> >Subject: RE: Anyone using Option Station?
> >
> >
> >> What is it about BayOption's product that makes it so superior ?
> >> After all....OS2000i won the award in the TASC awards for 1998.
> >>
>
>
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