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Well I went and got my manual out and read page 354 and 355. I can't find
one single word about how TS handles historical data being unreliable. Fact
is they say that they have done EXTENSIVE RESEARCH and established a
general rule about the chronological order in which ticks occur. After
reading this your left the assumption that Omega has considered this and
taking care of the problem through it's software programing. Omega has not
in any way admitted this to be a major concern with considering trading
test results.  

Robert



At 03:23 PM 9/20/1999 EDT, TradingSys@xxxxxxx wrote:
>In a message dated 9/20/99 11:22:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
>robert.cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
>> Problem
>>  with this trailing stop business is it not known to the average lay
person.
>>  It took people like Mark Brown to point this out to me and others on this
>>  list. Omega has known about this situation for a longtime yet do not
>>  disclose it to the public. A guy that buys Omega's software does the
>>  testing using trailing stops and figures the results are reliable. Using
>>  this information to trade real money and not being told about this flaw
>>  could cost him a lot of money. 
>
>I dusted off my TS4 users manual....lets see...Chapter 14: Testing your 
>trading systems (page 354 in mine) spends two pages talking about how TS 
>handles historical data and how unreliable results can be based O,H,L,C
data. 
>Of course, anyone who ever drew a single bar on a chart by hand knows that 
>too. If memory serves TS3, TS2, TS1 manuals talk about this too. I've had 
>dozens of clients who use TS. Unfortunately, few of them have ever read the 
>manuals (much less gotten their hands dirty after hitting F12 (hot key to 
>power editor, for all those who haven't)...that's too much work. It's much 
>easier to ask  Mark, or Joe, or Jake....and then you'd better hope they know 
>what they are talking about and are honest too. People wonder why 90% lose.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>TS
>
>(Not a TS fan, not a TS employee, but hey I have read the manual)
>
>Just got the MB post.
>
>He said:
>"Its sort of like buying a car and the manufacturer not telling you that if
>you are hit from the rear hard enough.  It will jamb the doors shut and burn
>you alive!  I lived in a little town once and 3 youths were killed in this
>manor."
>
>MB, it is more like this:
>
>If you drive your car into a brickwall at 100 miles per hour you might get 
>hurt! Therefore: WARNING! DO NOT DRIVE YOUR CAR INTO A BRICK WALL AT 100
MPH! 
> I lived in little town where two youths did this after a few beers. Just as 
>tragic.  Blame Bud? Blame Ford?
>
>Omega did not invent O,H,L,C bars. Nor are they burning anyone alive. The 
>same trouble existed doing this kind of study before computers, much less 
>before Omega. They just made it easier and faster to do a bad study.
>