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Hello List,
There has been much discussion of defragging here lately, that I think
misses the point. Defragging may help speed and performance, but does
nothing to improve stability. NT is adding the stability. I dare anyone of
you defrag proponents to go back to Win98 and defrag all you want. You will
still crash, just like before with ts2000. Windows NT is allowing TS2000 to
run without crashes, not whatever defrag program you choose. I think you are
misleading the list by claiming that these defrag programs are adding
stability. Speed maybe stability no. I have been using NT since before Omega
SP2, and I would be way more concerned about the stability of ts2000 than I
would about performance tweaks. Ts2000 for all practical purposes is
unsuitable for trading on any other Win OS than NT, period.
IMHO,
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: Ullrich Fischer <uf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <fritz@xxxxxxxx>; Richard <olfogey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: Defragging Win NT (Was: How to get TS2k to run well (was 2K for
sale)}
> I've been using version 5 for NT for almost a month now. It is working
> flawlessly and my previous performance issues have gone away. As far as
> I'm concerned, it is well worth the $40. It does take many passes to
fully
> defrag a drive, but with the set and forget feature, I don't care. It
does
> its passes while I'm sleeping. When I want to use the machine next day,
> everything is clean and working fine. -uf
>
> At 06:19 PM 9/18/99 -0600, Gary Fritz wrote:
> > > For any Win NT user, Diskeeper Lite sounds well needed and a true
> > > bargain.
> >
> >I also downloaded DK Lite a few days ago, and I'm not quite as
> >impressed.
> >
> >I ran it on my C drive (NTFS) which was fairly heavily fragmented.
> >It's 70% full (3GB out of 4.3), so there is 1.3GB free on it, and
> >there was a single contiguous 250MB free space on it due to moving my
> >VM swap space to the D drive just before running DK Lite.
> >
> >Any decent defragger I've ever seen would have been able to
> >completely defrag this disk and create large free spaces. DKlite had
> >plenty of free space to work with, including the large contiguous
> >piece. But DK Lite couldn't fully defrag it, even after 7
> >consecutive defrags!! Furthermore, the first defrag, instead of
> >consolidating fragmented files in the large free space, splattered
> >the free space all over the disk and left many fragmented files
> >behind.
> >
> >More troublesome, the information from the program was inconsistent.
> >DK Lite has an "Analyze" mode and a "Defrag" mode. Both report the
> >number of fragmented files and the number of "excess fragments."
> >Here are the results of running many A's and D's:
> >
> > FragFiles ExcessFrags
> >A: 3600 52000 (TS4 database was in 3700 pieces.... :-)
> >D: 100 22178
> >A: (forgot to record this one)
> >D: 100+ 8000
> >A: 24 13000
> >D: 6 1312
> >A: 18 12103
> >D: 4 4102
> >A: 14 8003
> >A: 33 8346 (might have been a defrag between these?)
> >D: 2 37
> >A: 11 7934
> >D: "Can't defrag any further"
> >A: 14 7705
> >D: 4 109
> >A: 10 7596
> >
> >I did some operations between some of these Defrag/Analyze cycles,
> >but not enough to cause that kind of variation. I always analyzed
> >immediately after the defrag finished, and the D & A answers were
> >always wildly different.
> >
> >Meanwhile, the graphical display of the disk showed most of the disk
> >being fragmented, even after 7 defrag passes!
> >
> >And on my D drive, the graphic Analysis display showed more used
> >(contiguous) files than empty filespace, even though there's only
> >1.9GB used and 6.8GB free on that drive! Then I ran a defrag on D
> >and most of the previously "used" space turned magically into "free"
> >space!?
> >
> >For free, it's hard to complain too much. I suspect my disk is in
> >much better shape than it was before. The full version offers
> >important improvements, like the ability to run a defrag at bootup so
> >you can move/consolidate directories. And the DiskKeeper defraggers
> >have the VERY nice feature that they can supposedly defrag a file
> >even if it's open by another application. (Hence Ullrich's ability
> >to run it every night without shutting down TS.)
> >
> >But I'm leery of buying the full-featured version if the freebie demo
> >acts this bizarre.
> >
> >Gary
>
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