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RE: Defragging Win NT (Was: How to get TS2k to run well (was 2K for sale)}



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Diskeeper lite is recommended in WNNT 4 SP5 when you try to defrag from 
Administration Tools, Disk Administration... They even give your the URL 
from where you can download the free version.  The free version worked 
flawlessly for me but required too much of my time to remember to do it and 
then to do it by hand.  The latest version can be scheduled to run 
automatically using the "set and forget" feature.  This version (version 5) 
really does work as advertised.  I highly recommend it.   I have no 
connection with Executive Software except as a satisfied customer. -uf

At 09:02 AM 9/18/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Richard and all,
>
>Diskeeper is a tool that has been in my "standard" specifications for WinNT
>systems for several years.
>
>FYI:  Diskeeper Lite is INCLUDED (built-in) in Win2000 Professional.
>
>WinNT users:  install it, set it on cruise-control, and never think about it
>again. The cost/benefit consideration is a "no-brainer."
>
>(I think I read Diskeeper's just-released version also defrags Win95/98?
>Not sure...)
>
>I have also used and been pleased with Raxco's (www.raxco.com) "Perfect
>Disk" for defragging NT.  Symantec is about to release their own new NT
>defragger too...  it's a beta available from www.symantec.com.
>
>Doug
>
>-----
>Doug Forman, MCSE (doug@xxxxxxxxxxx)
>Incline Systems, Inc. - Vancouver, WA
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard [mailto:olfogey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 8:41 AM
> > To: Ullrich Fischer
> > Cc: Larry Wright; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Defragging Win NT (Was: How to get TS2k to run well (was 2K for
> > sale)}
> >
> >
> > Dear Group,
> >
> > I am running TS 4.0 bld 23 on a P233 with Win NT 4.0 SP 3 ---
> > this is not my main
> > TS machine, as I use this computer mainly for dedicated Internet access,
> > primarily the LOS Squawkbox.  By the way, I upgraded from bld 21
> > to bld 23 a week
> > ago, and the upgrade worked flawlessly.  Furthermore, I have been
> > running TS 4.0
> > bld 21 on this machine for over a year now, and I don't remember
> > having a single
> > crash.  I initially loaded Win 98 followed by TS 4.0 bld 21 on
> > this machine and
> > was unable to go a single day without a crash.  After a week of that, I
> > reformatted my harddrive and installed Win NT and TS, and I don't
> > recall it
> > crashing since.
> >
> > As a result of reading this thread, I found the Diskeeper
> > website, and on it was
> > a free download of Diskeeper 4.0 Lite
> >
> > http://www.execsoft.com/dklite/download.htm
> >
> > I downloaded and ran it.  It first analyses the amount of disk
> > fragmentation, in
> > both the C (DOS) and D (NT) drives, and thereafter defragments
> > them.  It found
> > that my C drive was slightly, but my D drive was heavily,
> > defragmented, the
> > latter so much so that it said that the fragmentation would
> > necessarily cause
> > substantial slowing of my computer analysis.  (I have never
> > before defragmented
> > this computer, which is a little over a year old.)  Both the
> > download and the
> > analysis/defragmentation went flawlessly.  I recommend the program.
> >
> > The Lite version is free.  The full version I ran a price check
> > on and found that
> > it was selling at discount on the Internet for around $40.  As
> > much as I can
> > determine, the only advantage for me for the full version is that
> > is can do a
> > defragmentation automatically at a user-determined, pre-set time
> > (as Ullrich
> > indicates below) --- the Lite version defragments only manually.
> > For $40, I
> > figured I will defragment after the close of the markets on
> > Friday afternoon.
> >
> > For any Win NT user, Diskeeper Lite sounds well needed and a true bargain.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > Ullrich Fischer wrote:
> >
> > > I have a fair bit of crap (err...ah... excellent 3rd party
> > software) on my
> > > NT machine and it still works just fine with TS2Ki, eSignal,
> > eudora email,
> > > Lotus 123, Excel, MSword, and 3-4 IE 5.0 browser windows
> > running.  The key
> > > to stability on my system was to add Diskeeper  5.0 from
> > Executive Software
> > > with automatic defrag set to happen between 1am and 6am every night.  I
> > > don't have any games installed on my machine, just MS Office
> > 97, Lotus 123,
> > > and a few other utility and graphics packages which I never run during
> > > trading hours.   I had McAfee antivirus installed briefly but
> > that made the
> > > system very unstable, so I went back to relying primarily on
> > > F-PROT  (available free for individual home use from www.complex.is) for
> > > virus protection.  -uf
> > >
> > > At 12:40 PM 9/4/99 -0700, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Martin Warlich wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > S-O-R-R-Y, but I use this beast realtime running every day and night
> > > > since it has
> > > > > become available here in Germany in April.
> > > >
> > > >I'm glad to hear it! There is hope for us all.
> > > >
> > > > > Just to get things right: of course *I* reboot the system
> > every weekend
> > > > doing disk
> > > > > defragmentation, virus scans etc., but I never had a crash using TS.
> > > > The key for
> > > > > stability is to have an absolute clean NT system with
> > service pack>=4
> > > > because of
> > > > > the updated ODBC drivers and no other software installed than TS and
> > > > datafeed
> > > > > software: no betas, no shareware, no games, no.... you get it.
> > > >
> > > >Ahhh... Now we are getting to what one has to do to get it to run.
> > > >
> > > >I found that TS4 runs *much* better in a dedicated, empty machine.
> > > >Perhaps TS2k would also be better on a dedicated machine.
> > > >
> > > >Are the folks reporting good operation doing very little else on the
> > > >machine?
> > > >
> > > >Are the folks having trouble doing other things - surfing the net (this
> > > >has been the primary cause of most non-code-development troubles on my
> > > >non-TS machines), running Office, playing games <g>?
> > > >
> > > >If not, what *are* the differences between those folks who get
> > it to run
> > > >and the ones having lots of trouble?
> > > >
> > > > > So, there are no **stability** problems with TS2k, BUT the thing is
> > > > >
> > > > >               S_L__OO___WWWW  like hell !!!
> > > >
> > > >How many symbols, charts; how much chart complexity? These factors may
> > > >also help define what is practical to do with TS2k.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Of course, we all know that besides of speed there are a
> > lot of other
> > > > things that
> > > > > should be done by Omega to improve their software,
> > especially regarding
> > > > the 4-plot
> > > > > limitation, global variables, double precision math, continuous
> > > > intraday contracts,
> > > > > plotting in subgraphs etc...
> > > >
> > > >It would seem that 2k is mostly just a repackage of TS4, with more eye
> > > >candy added. We'll have to wait for improvements in
> > functionality - they
> > > >don't contribute to the glitz, they just help traders.
> > > >
> > > > > I don't care if you think I'm a newbie, an Omega-fan, a
> > Cruz-employee
> > > > or what else
> > > > > you might think. These are just my experiences, I'm sure
> > you have your's.
> > > >
> > > >Hey - I don't care what you are <g> - thanks for the info...
> > > >
> > > >Larry
> >
> >
> >