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Hey, Jack! Take a valium! I'm not trying to insult you, just looking
out for #1!
Like you say on your website, I don't know Jack! We're all strangers on
the net.
While the sample tips I've seen from you do make a lot of sense, a lot of
your promotional material looks a lot like the megatons of spam floating
around on the net.
What I'm hoping to gain is a flood of email from widely dispersed (by
geography and ISP) email addresses from happy customers extolling the
virtue of your system. I don't have an opinion one way or the other as
to whether or not you are another Wade Cook, but I do know that it is, in
general, a good idea to try to get independent confirmation of claims such
as yours. $US 877 may seem like chump change to you, pal, but it's real
money to me.
The specific questions I asked you were in response to the free (actually
$8.50 or so in long distance charges, but what the hay... ) teleconference
where you invited questions from the audience. The content of the
teleconference was extremely impressive. You certainly sound legit, but a
scamster would also sound legit.
I'm certainly not expecting anyone to guarantee that buying your membership
will lead to trading success. All I'm looking for is independent
corroboration that it is not a scam. While I appreciate the offer of a 6
months refund period, and the $150 discount if I turn in one of my less
successful self-education aids, I strongly suspect it would be a
non-trivial effort to get my money back if you should turn out to be a
scamster.
As for phone vs email communication, I much prefer email conversations for
matters that are not time sensitive. Email can be dealt with at each end
on the recipient's schedule and is the ultimate, IMHO, in non-intrusive
communication. I can type almost as fast as I can talk, and I can read a
hell of a lot faster than I can hear spoken words. I've heard your voice
in your realaudio clips on your web site and in yesterday's
teleconference. You sound sincere, but so would an accomplished con
man. I'm not saying you are a con man, I'm just painfully aware that the
person one suspects of possibly being a con man is not necessarily the most
reliable person from whom to get this information.
If I offered to sell you a car or a $900 computer by email or by phone,
would you buy it without checking to see if I was legit? Somehow, I doubt it.
Regards,
Ullrich
At 08:16 PM 9/16/99 -0700, you wrote:
>RE: Has anyone tried or run into anyone who tried this material? I've
> >listened to his realaudio presentation and to the free conference call
> >seminar that ended just now. It all sounds very interesting and
> >reasonable, but so does Wade Cook -- at first...
> >
>Please don't put me in the same category as Wade Cook or anyone else.
>You've seen my articles, trading tips and interviews with successful
>members.
>
>You've even had the nerve to ask me special trading questions and yet you
>still wonder if I'm legitimate
>or a scam. What do you hope to accomplish by asking this list if they know
>someone or know someone that knows someone that bought a membership from me?
>
>If someone had great success with my material it doesn't mean you'll have
>great success. If someone struggled with my material it doesn't mean you'll
>struggle.
>
>You'll be no closer to knowing if this is for you regardless of what you
>find out. You'll base your expectations on the results of a total stranger
>to you.
>
>My phone number is right on the web page, why not call me directly?
>303-494-7099
>Superior Information
>2424 Arapahoe Ave Suite 337
>Boulder, Co. 80302
>
>Your skepticism says more about your personality than my offer does about
>mine.
>I've bent over backwards for you and other non members for the last year and
>a half by answering questions and helping people get answers to there
>questions and research their questions INCLUDING YOURS and now you want to
>turn around and ask a stranger if I'm for real?
>
>Jack
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ullrich Fischer <uf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: tradewell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <tradewell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 6:40 PM
>Subject: https://www20.hway.net/etrad2/
>
>
> >https://www20.hway.net/etrad2/ is the URL to Jack Carter's website where
> >he has promotional material for this "Tricks of the Trade" memberships
> >which claim to help his clients get up to speed on day- or short term-
>trading.
> >
> >Has anyone tried or run into anyone who tried this material? I've
> >listened to his realaudio presentation and to the free conference call
> >seminar that ended just now. It all sounds very interesting and
> >reasonable, but so does Wade Cook -- at first...
> >
> >The memberships are a bit on the pricey side ($877 and up). He does offer
> >a 6 months money back guarantee, but having already blown a wad on
> >tradestation with relatively disappointing results, I'm leary of plunking
> >down this kind of loot on something like this without some feedback from
> >satisfied customers. I don't know what recourse I would have to get my
> >money back from Canada if this turns out to be a scam. Of course, if this
> >material works as advertised, it would be worth 100x the asking price.
> >
> >Maybe a better sales model for this kind of material would be for the
> >seller to get a pre-agreed upon percentage of the client's 1st two years of
> >trading profits after taking the material. The seller would have to
> >require that a fairly hefty chunk of trading capital (say $US 50k) be put
> >in a trading account to which the seller would have read only access so
> >that trading profits on at least that amount of capital could be verified.
> >
> >
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