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So don't use market orders. Use limit orders. Sheesh, what's so hard to 
figure out about that?

As far as Datek flim-flam, have you ever asked them how orders are filled? I 
did, and got the answers. I'm not special, I doubt they would tell me the 
truth and lie to you.

In a message dated 5/3/99 5:30:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
jallen7@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

> Read my post again.  I had market orders take 20 minutes to fill, and
>  priced orders were rarely filled as quickly as vendors imply, seldom in
>  30 seconds.  Using serious professional tools, many traders can be in
>  and out in less time than that.
>  
>  I think that it is much more common that you can be serious about
>  trading, hunt for what suits your needs, get flim-flammed by marketing
>  sunshine, realize what is being offered doesn't work like the illusion,
>  and move on.  As far as our experience showed, Datek was not adequate
>  for serious professional use.
>  
>  What a great day it will be when the software merchants are made to
>  match what is IN the box with what is on the OUTSIDE of the box.
>  
>  Jim Allen
>  
>  Sigstroker@xxxxxxx wrote:
>  > 
>  > Read my post again. I said limit orders. I said nothing about market 
> orders.
>  > Market orders are Selectnet broadcast. I used the Express page which 
needs 
> no
>  > confirm. If you're serious about trading, you have to make the effort to 
> find
>  > out how your chosen system works.
>  > 
>  > In a message dated 4/30/99 7:57:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>  > jallen7@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>  > 
>  > > Experience suggests otherwise.  One has to type in the order, then 
send 
> it,
>  > >  then fill in the super-secret password, then wait while that goes 
> through.
>  > 
>  > > 20
>  > >  minutes to get a market order filled??  I don't recall ever seeing a 
> fill
>  > in
>  > >  less than 30 seconds and most of the time longer than that...  if you'
> re
>  > > doing
>  > >  it, great, but we never could get it to work that way.
>  > >
>  > >  Jim Allen
>  > >
>  > >  Sigstroker@xxxxxxx wrote:
>  > >
>  > >  > Say what?? Delayed while a computer checks your password? Like for a
>  > >  > hundredth of a second? Nasdaq limit orders are either instantly 
> filled or
>  > >  > posted on ISLD, the most liquid ECN there is. Unless they're having
>  > system
>  > >  > problems, it's all accomplished in 5 to 10 seconds.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > In a message dated 4/29/99 3:02:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>  > >  > jallen7@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > > Your orders are routed to their trade desks, not directly to the 
> floor,
>  > >  > >  so they can screw you on the fill, I believe.  Every order is 
> delayed
>  > >  > >  while the computer checks your password, which you must enter 
each
>  > >  > >  order, and status of your account.  For active traders this is
>  > >  > >  unacceptable.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >  It's for amateurs, not professional traders.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >  Jim Allen
>