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Tim,
I've been on this List for a couple of years. I can sympathize with the
intent of your message but can't agree with your conclusions. Seven or
eight posts by people who have never posted before-- maybe! -- But what
about the 50 to 100 or more bashing posts --using the same old time-worn
profane rantings-- condemning someone who may or may not have actually
intended to contribute something of value? This is the true source of
noise on the List.
The closet Vendor masquerading as an anti-spam crusader that you refer to,
was booted from the List many months ago for his well-known disruptive
activities. The List survived just fine and even thrived during the period
with many people actually being helpful to others without the fear of a
froth-mouthed pit-bull roaring out of the shadows to lock onto the jugular
of someone whom he thought might be impinging on what he perceives to be his
own little fiefdom.
I don't know anything about the alleged Bond trading Manual that ignited
this last round of bashing, but I have traded Bonds and trained others how
to trade and I know that it certainly can be done. If it is perceived by
some as spamming, it can easily be dealt with via a strongly worded
message-- as was done here by someone in a later incident a couple of days
ago. A few well worded private messages to a spammer would have much more
effect than the redundant ramblings that we've been subjected to on the
List. The intent of bashers is not to chase away spammers, as they would
like you to believe-- It's the equivalent of a 2-year old throwing a temper
tantrum to attract attention.
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At 10:11 PM 11/16/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Folks on the Omega List:
>
>The past three or four days, I have read six or seven or eight posts by people
>that have never posted a question, a solution or even a view about someone
>else's post proclaiming that the 'silent majority' should let its feelings be
>heard and people should be thrown off the list.
>
>Now, I'm not your average systems coding guy, so I am not likely to ever post
>free code for others to look at and use. I can only offer my thoughts,
ideas and
>approaches to the markets. I'm a professional trader. I have been since 1980.
>There probably aren't too many people reading these posts that can say that.
>Trading is a rough business. If it was easy, we'd all be retired. But trading
>takes persistance, guts, creativity and sometimes it takes just plain
>stubbornness and orneryness. I've known quite a few of the best traders in this
>world and very few were saints. So when I read posts here, I am looking for
>creative ideas and approaches to the markets--and in fact, as long as the posts
>remain here on this forum, I could care less what style of language is used, as
>long as the content of the posts are helpful. I'm here to share and I'm here to
>learn, probably not in that order.
>
>I read a post from yesterday or the day before and that person wanted to know
>how many posts Mark Brown needed to make to 'pay' for the abusive language he
>uses on this forum. Well, anyone that's been on this forum for any period of
>time knows that Mark gives and gives and gives. Sure, he can rub people the
>wrong way. I don't always agree with Mark--and I am certain he doesn't always
>agree with me. But I think he posts here because he is looking at the ways
>others approach the markets, and in return, he shares what he has to share. And
>he shares ten or a hundred fold compared to what he gets in return--at least I
>think he does.
>
>The silent majority? The majority of people lose trading. I have no wish to
ever
>join that majority. I want to continue to master the tools I use. I'll gladly
>share them here if people find them of interest. If the membership makeup of
>this list is going to become a popularity contest, please count me out--I'll
>find better uses for my time and energy. I don't blame the Sherrif--he's
doing a
>thankless and difficult job, and doing it well. I just want to remind the
people
>that are writing there first post, after silently soaking up other people's
>ideas for the past umpteenth months, to remember that if you surround yourself
>with people that are bland, you're not going to have many traders, successful
>and otherwise.
>
>I hear MB might be shown the door, so to speak. And we may have already lost
>Gaius Marius. The ATI list went very silent once the content left it. This list
>wouldn't do much better if we instituted a popularity contest to choose who can
>join and who couldn't. Let me see...who'll give me 1000 of RoseLee's many fine
>posts for one of Mark Browns? Or, I'll give you Earl's most helpful posts if
>you'll just give me one helpful post that Bill made before he...well, you get
>the idea.
>
>Best,
>
>Tim Morge
>
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