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RE: Who makes money?



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Futures is not a zero sum game.  The possession or not of the underlying, 
or other related derivatives, affects the purpose of taking a futures 
position.  And it affects whether the position is better as a winner or 
loser within the narrower perspective of the particular future contract.



-----Original Message-----
From:	William Heinz [SMTP:wheinz@xxxxxxx]
Sent:	Monday, October 26, 1998 2:11 AM
To:	sptradr@xxxxxxxxx
Cc:	omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject:	Re: Who makes money?

I didn't mean to strike a sour note. As a potential trader I was struck by 
a
recent posting on this list by a broker who "confessed" that in his 18 
years
he had only seen a "handfull" of traders who were profitable. That doesn't
even add up to 10% which is the advertised figure. Maybe some of us want
somebody to provide some proof as to their success although I know it is
certainly not required. After being to several "real time" S&P seminars and
seeing the "big boys" trade "frantically and haphazardly" and also
consistently lose on that particular day I'm naturally skeptical although
still fascinated by the possibility that day trading S&P's could be a
successfull venture. Somebody's winning in this zero sum game