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> From: Thom Schrader <thomschrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Neal T. Weintraub <thevindicator@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thursday, July 23, 1998 6:17 PM
> Subject: Re: It's time....
>
> Neal,
> I bought TS as a fairly new trader (1 year experience) looking for a tool to
> backtest
> some ideas of mine and examine other systems being marketed. Imagine my
> dismay
> in finding out that backtesting in general was not very reliable in the
> futures markets,
> and due to deficiencies in design TS was not a good vehicle to use. Not
> Omegas fault
> although their ads are misleading at best. I am at fault for not looking
> into the situation more carefully.
>
> However, Omega is culpable for knowingly marketing a defective product (y2k
> compliance and bouncing ticks) and then arrogantly deciding to fix these
> problems
> when they get damn good and ready. A business that does not take care of its
> customer
> base is heading for the scrap heap. I want Omega to prosper and take care of
> its
> responsibilities, now and in the future. I and all Omega users have a vested
> interest.
>
> Will I purchase TS5? very unlikely, but Tradelab looks viable as a TS
> addon and later as a stand alone system.
>
> Regards.
>
> Tom Schrader
>
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Reply-To: "Neal T. Weintraub" <thevindicator@xxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Neal T. Weintraub" <thevindicator@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thomschrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: It's time....
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 06:57:21 -0700
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please post your comments to the list. I enjoyed the Vegas presentation but
Omega decided to have sales-people rather than traders do the
presentation.in the future.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thom Schrader <thomschrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Neal T. Weintraub <thevindicator@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, July 23, 1998 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: It's time....
>Neal,
>I bought TS as a fairly new trader (1 year experience) looking for a tool
to
>backtest
>some ideas of mine and examine other systems being marketed. Imagine my
dismay
>in finding out that backtesting in general was not very reliable in the
futures
>markets,
>and due to deficiencies in design TS was not a good vehicle to use. Not
Omegas
>fault
>although their ads are misleading at best. I am at fault for not looking
into
>the situation
>more carefully.
>
>However, Omega is culpable for knowingly marketing a defective product (y2k
>compliance and bouncing ticks) and then arrogantly deciding to fix these
>problems
>when they get damn good and ready. A business that does not take care of
its
>customer
>base is heading for the scrap heap. I want Omega to prosper and take care
of
>its
>responsibilities, now and in the future. I and all Omega users have a
vested
>interest.
>
>Will I purchase TS5? very unlikely, but Tradelab looks viable as a TS
addon and
>later
>as a stand alone system.
>
>Regards.
>
>Tom Schrader
>
>p.s. had the chance to meet you at a TS101 seminar held here in Las Vegas
>12-18 months ago. enjoyed the presentation.
>
>Neal T. Weintraub wrote:
>
>> I am speaking at Futures West in California. Fill me and update me on the
>> problem.
>> Why do so many people purchase this product if you feel this way.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thom Schrader <thomschrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: Timothy Morge <tmorge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: OfficeOfThePresident@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <OfficeOfThePresident@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Janette Perez
>> <Janette.Perez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; Dennis Boyle <dennis.boyle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 9:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: It's time....
>>
>> >Omega Research:
>> >
>> >Add my voice to Tim Morge's demand. I will join a class action suit if
>> real
>> >progress
>> >is now forthcoming in the very near future.
>> >
>> >Tom Schrader
>> >Block 27989
>> >
>> >Timothy Morge wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mr. Cruz:
>> >>
>> >> I am a professional trader. I always try to help my fellow trader. I
am
>> not
>> >> known as a basher of Omega products. I own TradeStation 4.0 and
>> Supercharts 4.0
>> >> and I owned prior versions of both.
>> >>
>> >> It's time for Omega to start treating all of us, your current users,
with
>> >> respect, Mr. Cruz. We want a year 2000 compliant patch on our existing
>> product.
>> >> And we refuse to wait until you have finished using your resources on
a
>> new
>> >> product. We are not going to spend another dime on an Omega product
until
>> Omega
>> >> makes our existing products year 2000 compliant. You have insulted all
of
>> us by
>> >> telling us you will release a patch after you release a new product.
The
>> fees
>> >> from our existing products paid for the research for TradeStation
version
>> >> 5...Now at least fix our existing product.
>> >>
>> >> And fix it now, Mr. Cruz. We are all actively trading contracts on the
>> >> exchanges. Fix our products now. Telling us you will release a patch
>> after you
>> >> release TradeStation version 5 is not good enough. Give us a patch
now.
>> We trade
>> >> for a living and you are threatening our living. We don't want to sue
>> Omega for
>> >> their lack of responsibility, but we will not spend another dime for
your
>> >> products until we have a version 4 year 2000 patch. And if it takes
legal
>> action
>> >> to get you to put your resources where they belong, we will take legal
>> action.
>> >> Enough is enough. Treat us like the good customers we have been and
>> fulfill your
>> >> responsibility. Now.
>> >>
>> >> Timothy Morge
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>
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