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Now, the first message that appeared after on the list and sent by Mark was
this one (followed by others):

Suj :	 Re: ORSP-Success in Partnership
Date :	18/02/98 02:40:14  
From:	MarkBrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Reply-to:	MarkBrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To:	Mitch.Ackles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Mitch.Ackles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx),
scherry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (scherry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx),
product.quality@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (product.quality), omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
(Omega-List), mitch.ackles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Mitch Ackles
officeofthepresident@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
CC:	glance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Al Buechert (E-mail)), trdngsltn@xxxxxxx (Allon
Shadmi (E-mail)), mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Averill Strasser (E-mail)),
pbsp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Bernard Mitchell (E-mail)), bking@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Beth
King (E-mail)), ptg@xxxxxxxxxxx (Bill Williams (E-mail)), tsi@xxxxxxxxxx
(Blane A. Lickteig (E-mail)), proact@xxxxxxx (Blane Lickteig (E-mail)),
bam2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Brett Miller (E-mail)), schadcta@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Brian Schad
(E-mail)), cookcarl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Carl Cook (E-mail)),
pbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Christopher Dillon (E-mail)), FredSchutzman@xxxxxxx (CMT
Fred G. Schutzman (E-mail)), cptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Craig Perrine (E-mail)),
nchrisc@xxxxxxx (CTA Christopher Cheatham (E-mail)), dale@xxxxxxxxx (Dale
Legan (E-mail)), meyersx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Dennis Meyers (E-mail)),
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Doug Deming (E-mail)), duanedavis@xxxxxxx (Duane Davis
(E-mail)), realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Eddie Kwong (E-mail)),
VtekCorp1@xxxxxxx (Edward R. Velazquez (E-mail)), mstar5@xxxxxxx (Frank
Alfonso (E-mail)), wagner@xxxxxxxx (Gary Wagner (E-mail)),
customerservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Gay Doles (E-mail)), george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(George Montgomery (E-mail)), gpitney@xxxxxxxx (Gilbert Pitney (E-mail)),
gfds@xxxxxxxx (Glen Larson (E-mail)), global_investment@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Greg
Cook (E-mail)), sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Gregory Richards (E-mail)),
jfccmt@xxxxxxx (Jack Cahn (E-mail)), janarps@xxxxxxx (Jan Arps (E-mail)), iss-
trading@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Jeff Davis (E-mail)), off@xxxxxxxxx (Jeffrey Katz
(E-mail)), lbressert@xxxxxxx (Jerome Bressert (E-mail)), joekrut@xxxxxxx (Joe
Krutsinger (E-mail)), jtapias@xxxxxxxxxxx (Joe Tapias (E-mail)),
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (John Austin (E-mail)), daytrade@xxxxxxx (John Bonin (E-
mail)), john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (John Ehlers (E-mail)), jkuder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
(John Kuder (E-mail)), ablesys@xxxxxxxxxxx (John Wang (E-mail)),
kfitsche@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Keith Fitschen (E-mail)), kci5vbtp@xxxxxxxx (Kent
Calhoun (E-mail)), wintrade@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Larry Ehrhart (E-mail)),
LINKFin@xxxxxxx (Lars Kestner (E-mail)), 73243.3614@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Leo
Zamansky (E-mail)), wardsystems@xxxxxxx (Margaret Sherald (E-mail)),
mgj@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Mark Jurik (E-mail)), mmm1@xxxxxxx (Mark Melzl (E-mail)),
mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Mark Seleznov (E-mail)), angusfl@xxxxxxx (Martin Bedick
(E-mail)), CLDTRCOM@xxxxxxx (Matt Archangeli (E-mail)), digital@xxxxxxx (Mel
Neal (E-mail)), jaustin@xxxxxxxxxx (Michael Gossland (E-mail)),
info@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Michael J. Meyer (E-mail)), tsci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Michael
Mermer (E-mail)), wetradeall@xxxxxxx (Mike Chalek (E-mail)),
milesd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Miles Dunbar (E-mail)), nickn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Nick
Nickolaou (E-mail)), nfsmith@xxxxxxxx (Norman Smith (E-mail)),
pdb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (P. B. Dentone (E-mail)), vibri@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Mikula
(E-mail)), pitvox@xxxxxx (Patrick Rosenthal (E-mail)), jtiware@xxxxxxx (Peter
DiGirolamo (E-mail)), pshasta@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Peter Shasta (E-mail)),
orphelin@xxxxxxx (Pierre Orphelin (E-mail)), biocomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Ralph
Carlberg (E-mail)), rstuckey@xxxxxxxx (Randy Stuckey (E-mail)),
traderfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Richard Maseri (E-mail)), elliottware@xxxxxxxxx
(Robert Gudino (E-mail)), lbressert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Robert Harnach (E-
mail)), robmoody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Robert Moody (E-mail)),
ueb.trading@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Robert Uberbacher (E-mail)), ron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
(Ron Jaenisch (E-mail)), RKelly2195@xxxxxxx (Roy Kelly (E-mail)),
s.k.tennis@xxxxxxx (Samuel Tennis (E-mail)), ci@xxxxxxx (Shane Day (E-mail)),
stanecf@xxxxxxx (Stan Ehrlich (E-mail)), krofs@xxxxxxx (Stuart Okorofsky (E-
mail)), sunny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sunny Harris (E-mail)), rmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (T
Lin (E-mail)), Tabierovic@xxxxxxx (Thomas Bierovic (E-mail)),
mathematicus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Tim Hatamian (E-mail)), iecorp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(Tom Bigelow (E-mail)), trevor.neil@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Trevor Neil (E-mail)),
cycles1@xxxxxxx (Walter Bressert (E-mail)), wayne.easel@xxxxxxxxxx (Wayne
Essel (E-mail)), 1000mileman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (William Brower (E-mail)),
wsin@xxxxxxx (William Sindel (E-mail))

I just wonder how they are going to release TradeStation 5.0 in the second
quarter. Yet claim that they have had it beta tested? It is just the same old
crap at Omega. ETC ...
=================
Now go back to the top of the second header and compare with the first one.

WHO HAS ADDED THIS at the top of the second header ???? Mitch Ackles, Bill
Cruz ? Saddam Hussein ?

To:	Mitch.Ackles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Mitch.Ackles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx),
scherry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (scherry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx),
product.quality@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (product.quality), omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx
(Omega-List), mitch.ackles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Mitch Ackles
officeofthepresident@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) ETC (the ORST list follows)

Omega List is now appearing on the mailing and this is the reason why the so
called  MB private mail (to ORSP) was received by the ORSP AND Omega List.

Sheriff, you are not clear with yourself...

 (snip)
<< 
 Mark probably should be allowed to resubscribe to the list but not without
 some privisos and quid quo pros.   Inflammatory language is not so bad as
 the cursing.   Both are, however, excess verbage.  Perhaps his initial post
 should be an apology?
 While not privy to the escapades of Mark Brown on the AOL list,  I have
 learned to read his passionate behavior.  Mark posts the list when he has
 time.  He has time when he is successful.   When he is winning he has an
 ego.   He doesn't post, contrary to what Jim Cox says,  when he is losing.
>>

Well, I agree with you, but this time Mark  has gone too far out of the
limits.
He is not a martyr, but a victim of himself.
Too empressed to copy and paste, then hit the send button when he broke his
nerves.

(snip)
<< 
 Now, a word for the newbies with Omega.   The Cubans do not like honey.
 Don't waste your time with honey.  Try a baseball bat if you want
 attention.  It works.  Mark Brown is proof of that and many of you have
 Mark to thank for some of the bugs you could of had and don't.   The right
 mouse clock is a recent example.  His approach is a welcomed alternative to
 the excuse-peddling approach of Pierre -- Mark's alter ego. 
>>
I do not see what the Cubans may have to see with this thread
I appreciate Mark's comments , even when he is not thinking the same than me.
But I have not really appreciated the latest, that goes far from the
civilization,and is useless, for all, including himself.

<<
(snip)
 
 I guess it made sense to  Omega to kick him off as a Solution Provider
 although he has provided many solutions.  Then again, I am reminded what
 Winston Churchill said,  Stay close to your friends and closer to your
 enemies."     Omega may have made a big mistake.   It is interesting to
 note that one way to shut up the discourse of Mark Brown is deliver bug
 fixes and  Y2K patches and Omega doesn't do that.  Hmmm...
<i   I guess if you haven't been around since 1987 you don't see the pattern
in Omega's action.
 >>

Omega cannot admit that a solution provider opens an official bashing site
against the company.
And bashing , it is, I trust Mark.
Would you also regret that Omega was not also a sponsor of the considered
bashing site ?

Instead of tring to defend him with so poor arguments, you shoud try to make
him to change is mind,close his web site that will give back certainly some
problems ( Calling for a public lawsuit  about OmegaBug doc on TS3.5 outdated
and $trailing stop bug that is not one, but a limitation that is
understandable when reading  the Bouncing Ticks TS feature). Then ask him to
come back if he,  the maintainer of this list and others agree.
I also think that a public excuse regarding Bill Cruz, Mitch Ackles, Jeanette
Perez and Omega Research could be necessary (mandatory) to calm the waters,
even if it seems unacceptable to consider this for the moment.

The only positive excuse that I will always keep in mind is that Mark does
honestly what he does and has the general interset in his mind when he does
something.
But sometime he goes off the road, and these times the road was crossing a
deep wild valley from a high bridge...

" the excuse-peddling approach of Pierre -- Mark's alter ego. " is exerpted
from your above  message.
You may also see that it works ALSO for Mark

Now, for Marks unconditional supporters , you may know that he is currently
gently writing on ATI -List.
You may also know that the ATI list is maintained by Bob Brickey.

Knowing Bob enough to say that he will not have the patience of Jim Osborn and
the blindness that I observe here to admit this kind of noise on the ATI list,
if unfortunately a new  "accident" occured...

<<
( snip)
 Sheriff Chuck
 >>

Sincerely,

Pierre Orphelin
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Free evaluation version to downlaoad from www.sirtrade.com.
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