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what is version 10.1b, the one I have is 10.1, how to get it and what is the different?
thanks.
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rvalue1" <rvalue1@xxx> wrote:
>
> Super, What does MS 10.1b do that is different? I have 10.0 and not even gone to 10.1 for fear of having more problems. So far 10.0 has worked fine.
> Years back I used to have a lot of problems with MS - loading up etc.
> Root cause turned out to be a bad cable modem unit. Not sure if I used the right term. I did a Speed test and found we had a little better then telephone modem speed but had been paying for high speed cable for years. I was upset.
> Had no problems after the WOW! Internet cable guy came in and replaced the cable modem. I don't use multi-time frame layouts however, I must admit.
>
> Rahul M
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, superfragalist <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello again Rvalue1,
> >
> > Good luck with MS tech support. All the people there are really friendly and willing to help but in most cases like the one you're experiencing, they have no idea what the problem actually is.
> >
> > I gave you my explanation of what causes MS glitches. It's generally a disruption in data flow that MS can't recover from. It can also be a mismatch in timing between the flow of data and the time it takes your machine and MS to calculate the information that you want on the chart. I can duplicate the problem all day long by adding prevs to formula's on one minute charts.
> >
> > If you can run a one minute chart clean on the same symbol for several hours and don't have the problem, then it's being caused by one of your indicators or formulas. Next time it happens, don't wipe out the data cache. Instead restart MS and open a clean one minute plot of symbol and see how long it runs before it hangs, if it hangs at all.
> >
> > Right now I'm having a problem with layouts, and occasionally even with a single symbol, where I get an error saying that MS can't connect with the data server, it stops loading the charts and then it never recovers. I talked to tech support who blamed the problem on esignal.
> >
> > I create some trapping logs that documented every tick, what server I was connected to, etc. The logs identified exactly when the error occurred to the second. I had esignal give me their server data for the server I was attached do when the problems occurred. Their server data was perfect and showed no hicups at all during the time intervals when MS hung up. I repeated this test several times, and each time the results were the same.
> >
> > I talked to Equis tech support about the problem again and carefully documented that it wasn't an esignal problem. Well, Equis has no clue what's going on. I've had this problem constantly since I upgraded to version 10.1b with the custom time frames. I'm pretty sure it's caused by the custom time function not being able to keep up with the tick data so mismatching happens. I don't know if it's causing a problem with the data cache. Maybe the timing is causing missing data, etc. I don't know. I'm going to test that theory as soon as I get time.
> >
> > I've also found problems with the memory management when MS wants to swap things in and out of video memory. If it hits an unexpected piece of data in a specific address it seems to studder a bit and then the server glitch happens. I'm going to run some memory tests and see if I can figure out what's happening but I haven't had time to do that yet.
> >
> > I used to have problems with MS 9 locking up occasionally when I would switch from one layout to another one in a different time frame, or if I loaded a few symbols in 1 and 5 minute time intervals and then tried to open a layout setup for 60 minute intervals. However, I didn't get the server disconnect error message.
> >
> > Right now, I reboot MS anywhere from 0 times a day to 4 or 5 times. Sometimes I have to reboot it 2 or 3 times in a row. When that happens I reboot XP and the problem disappears for awhile.
> >
> > This all part of trading. I've lived with it for years. I have a backup trading program Active Trader Pro that I can open anytime MS encounters a problem. I also run it when I want to watch indices and symbols at the same time on different time frames.
> >
> > From time to time Active Trader Pro has its on data streaming problems. I spent nearly 100 hours a few years ago tracing a problem that caused ATP to hang when certain indicators were opened. It came down to integrating data from two servers and one of them getting out of sync on occasion. ATP now gets all of its data from one server and the problem has disappeared. My point is none of the trading programs I've seen are perfect. I use multiple programs daily. They do all kinds of functions and when one is experiencing problems I can keep going with the others.
> >
> > By the way, have you seen the 0.25% tax per trade the Obama boys are proposing. They're defending it as way to stop speculators from running up prices. That tax, if it's passed, is going to wipe out a lot of traders. I don't trade as frequently as I used to but in the first few years, that tax would have cost me 6 figures a year. You might want to add that fee into your backtesting.
> >
> > Super
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rvalue1" <rvalue1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I had a Metastock expert freeze again in the morning. Went in and deleted all the stuff in data demand cache folder and it was fine through the afternoon. This is a real pain. I will call tech support if it happens again tomorrow. I can't afford this to happen to me when I am doing real day trading. Fortunately, I am mostly running the trades using a IB simulation account so that I know I can do it before throwing too much real money into it. Of course my R/IRA trades real using slower intraday charts. This is not a game.
> > >
> > > Rvalue
> > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "rvalue1" <rvalue1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I appreciate the comments below to help. Yes - I was just trying RMO but agree that it is simple enough to have your own variations.. which I normally use. I had the freezing problem on another expert also - so it appeared unrelated to RMO.
> > > >
> > > > Called Tech support at Equis and I think we figured it out. I had gone into my Data Demand Cache folder and had deleted some older files but not all. Tom told me that you need to empty the whole Data Demand Cache folder excluding the MS Smart folder in it. Otherwise it gets the counts all messed up. I have not had a problem with the freezing mid-late afternoon and will see if all is well tomorrow. Hopefully we got it fixed.
> > > >
> > > > Rvalue1
> > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, vladimir abramov <vlabra56@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Practically the slowing down could be
> > > > > solved writing� External Formulas.
> > > > > I did all the things on hard and sofware RVALUE
> > > > > talks about to find out that slowing down up to
> > > > > crash of MS wil not be eliminated on this way.
> > > > > ExtFormulas do.
> > > > > Vlad
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Tue, 3/3/09, superfragalist <no_reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > From: superfragalist <no_reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] MS sluggish with complex indicators
> > > > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 6:11 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Using complex indicators like the RMO on one minute charts is likely
> > > > >
> > > > > to cause problems. It's caused by a conflict between the tick data
> > > > >
> > > > > stream and the computer having to coordinate calculations and graph
> > > > >
> > > > > display. All of those have to be insync or MS stutters for a second
> > > > >
> > > > > and freezes up. MS just doesn't recover well when any data flow in any
> > > > >
> > > > > pipe gets out of sequence.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Prev's on intraday charts can be a major problem and really magnify
> > > > >
> > > > > the situation I just mentioned. I only use formula's with Prev's on
> > > > >
> > > > > the longer time frames like daily or hourly charts. It's not that your
> > > > >
> > > > > computer is slow. It's that there's too much data swapping from the
> > > > >
> > > > > processor, hard disc and RAM that has to take place in coordination
> > > > >
> > > > > with the inflow of tick data. You can see this if you open symbols
> > > > >
> > > > > that have a lot of tick data versus a really low volume symbol.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It gets very complicated and expensive to overcome some of the
> > > > >
> > > > > challenges of coordinating all of the various MS functions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are a few things you can do. Increase the size of RAM to 4 GBs,
> > > > >
> > > > > if you're running Vista and at least 2 GBs if you're running XP. 4 GBs
> > > > >
> > > > > helps on XP but only marginally. MS does a lot of data swapping in and
> > > > >
> > > > > out of memory.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Install an Intel x-25 160 GB solid state drive. MS is read write
> > > > >
> > > > > intensive. Hard disc response time is critical to match up in inputs
> > > > >
> > > > > and outputs. You won't believe how fast your system goes with the
> > > > >
> > > > > Intel Drive in it. Once a defrag logic is worked out by Intel, I'm
> > > > >
> > > > > going to put two of them into the computer I run MS on. (You can also
> > > > >
> > > > > create a RAM drive if you can put 8 GBs on your motherboard. MS will
> > > > >
> > > > > load into the RAM drive daily when you start it up, and it will fly
> > > > >
> > > > > like you won't believe.) MS hammers your hard drives. Solid state
> > > > >
> > > > > drives are more durable. The issue with small packet sizes and
> > > > >
> > > > > defragging needs to be solved before I'll use MS on them daily,
> > > > >
> > > > > however. MS creates a lot of small files and rewrites them constantly.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Turn off the accelerator mode on your video card if it has an
> > > > >
> > > > > accelerator mode. (some do some don't)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Test MS with virus protection turned on and off and firewall
> > > > >
> > > > > protection turned on and off. Those two things cause a lot of
> > > > >
> > > > > problems. And test with both of them turned off at the same time.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Some video card bios cause problems with MS. That's a tough one to
> > > > >
> > > > > track down, but MS has clashes with video memory sometimes. Things
> > > > >
> > > > > like double buffering and full screen anti-aliasing can trip up MS
> > > > >
> > > > > also. Since MS is a 2D program, RAM memory size is more important than
> > > > >
> > > > > the memory on the video card. I find that MS works better with older
> > > > >
> > > > > simpler video cards. (I do too!)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Often the management of memory becomes a factor as more charts are
> > > > >
> > > > > opened and closed.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Other issues like the flow of data from your ISP. ISP's have data
> > > > >
> > > > > glitches all the time but they happen so fast they don't generally
> > > > >
> > > > > catch our attention. Every now and again those disruptions can cause
> > > > >
> > > > > MS to make a misstep from which it can't recover.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > MS is an old program. It needs a complete rewrite to make it more
> > > > >
> > > > > compatible with today's technologies, but that's not likely to happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Instead we'll get more band aid features slapped on to it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you can probably figure out a way to make money with other
> > > > >
> > > > > indicators on a one minute chart. I keep my one minute charts really
> > > > >
> > > > > simple. Tradestation is a bit better at handling these kinds of
> > > > >
> > > > > problems, so it depends on what kind of program you want to work with
> > > > >
> > > > > while trading.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck Rvalue1!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Super
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com, "rvalue1" <rvalue1@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I was using the RMO expert yesterday on a 1' chart and it seems to
> > > > >
> > > > > > freeze up doing its calculation. The blue-red bars became black with
> > > > >
> > > > > > no signals. When I tried changing the expert, I saw that Metastock
> > > > >
> > > > > > was frrozen up and not responding.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone had this problem with the RMO? My laptop is 1 1/2 years
> > > > >
> > > > > > old and is not too outdated. Appreciate the input.
> > > > >
> > > > > > For now, I have canned using the RMO and switched to a look alike
> > > > >
> > > > > > that works fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Rvalue1
> > > > >
> > > > > > --- In equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com, pumrysh <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Joo,
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > I've taken the liberty of changing the message subject.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the indicator! From a lanquage standpoint this is
> > > > >
> > > > > > > definately shorter. The limitation problem still exist though. If
> > > > >
> > > > > > we
> > > > >
> > > > > > > were to try a recursion period of m25 or there about metastock
> > > > >
> > > > > > would
> > > > >
> > > > > > > politely tell us that we had exceeded the number of allowable
> > > > >
> > > > > > > variables.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > It would be great if we could set the lookback periods for the
> > > > >
> > > > > > simple
> > > > >
> > > > > > > and recursive moving averages by simply using an input statement.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Preston
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com, joo seng <jooseng6@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Preston,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is my ver of the RMO Osc:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > m1:=mov(c,2, s);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > m2:=mov(m1,2, s);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > m3:=mov(m2,2, s);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > m4:=mov(m3,2, s);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > m5:=mov(m4,2, s);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > m6:=mov(m5,2, s);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > m7:=mov(m6,2, s);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > m8:=mov(m7,2, s);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > m9:=mov(m8,2, s);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > m10:=mov(m9, 2,s);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > mm:=(m1+m2+m3+ m4+m5+m6+ m7+m8+m9+ m10)/10;
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > ST1:=100 *(c-mm)/max( hhv(c,10) -llv(c,10) ,0.000001) ;
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > RMO:=Mov(ST1, 81,E);
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > RMO;
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 28/2/09, pumrysh <no_reply@xxxxxxxxxx s.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: pumrysh <no_reply@xxxxxxxxxx s.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: RSI Calculation
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 4:56 AM
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Joo,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just noticed that I had written recussion... .that should have
> > > > >
> > > > > > been
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > recursion.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thus far we have:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > (Mov(C,2,S)+
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mov(Mov(C,2, S),2,S)+
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mov(Mov(Mov( C,2,S),2, S),2,S)+
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov(C,2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,S)+
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov(Mov(C, 2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,S)+
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov(Mov(Mov( C,2,S),2, S),2,S),2, S),2,S),2, S)+
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov
> > > > >
> > > > > > > (C,2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) +
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov(Mov
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > (C,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) +
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov(Mov(Mov
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > (C,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,\
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > S)+
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov(Mov(Mov( Mov
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > (C,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S) ,2,S),2,S\
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > ),2,S),2,S)) /10;
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > can be written down in the following analytical form:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > (C*1023+Ref( C,-1)*2036+ Ref(C,-2) *1981+
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ref(C,-3)*1816+ Ref(C,-4) *1486+Ref( C,-5)*1024+
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ref(C,-6)*562+ Ref(C,-7) *232+Ref( C,-8)*67+
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ref(C,-9)*12+ Ref(C,-10) )/10240
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > What I would like to be able to do is simplify these formulas.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Both
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > are hardwired and in order to change them it requires that the
> > > > >
> > > > > > code
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > be rewritten. I also want to input the variables for the simple
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > moving average and the recursive moving average.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Preston
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com, joo seng <jooseng6@ .>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Preston,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you means you want to vary the no. of times of the mov of
> > > > >
> > > > > > mov?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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