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You just made another subjective and a quick intepretation again. You need to understand the whole post. If you can not understand it, please read it slowly LOL:)
Frankly speaking, I never use URSC as I dont believe it. You can ask the owner directly. My concept trading is KIS( keep it simple). there are plenty of valuable indicators to invest which has been tested by traders all over the world but ofcourse not this one. the system that I trade only consists of 1turn over, 1 trend indicator, 1volatility and 1ordinal argument. but on top of this it manages to reject 99.9% of ASX stocks and trade consistently.
Regarding the indicator that i gave you, you can contact the owner i.e. tech trader a.k.a john not me. I never use this indicator to trade so I could not tell you. If you wish to invest for URSC that is totally your freedom. I just show you the path but the rest is up to you to decide ':).
I tend to avoid racial and religion as I dont wish to discuss these things. They have nothing to do with trading. URSC is not a holy grail which can turn the poor and novice traders to gain for the market. It only makes them to become discourage and lazy to think.
Trade Well
----- Original Message ----
From: Fernando Santos <ptc_man3@xxxxxxxxx>
To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, 25 August, 2007 7:09:12 AM
Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Creating an external relative strength indicator
Hi Thomas
I didn't know that I had a "secret intention" when I answered to
artopliffmd question, oh well
I hope that you are not comparing your formula to the URSC toolkit.
That would be like comparing Madre Theresa and all her good deeds in
taking care of poor people and children to that greek goddess Angelina
Jolie :-P and her good deeds in adopting poor children. Both had good
intentions but the final results were and are completely diferent,
although Angelina is still young ;-)
I tried your exploration. Shouldn't the formula be more like... this?
Col A: 1week ((Mov(C/P,5, S) /Ref(Mov( C/P,5,S), -5))-1)*100
Col B: 1month ((Mov(C/P,5, S) /Ref(Mov( C/P,5,S), -21))-1)*100
Col C: 3month ((Mov(C/P,5, S) /Ref(Mov( C/P,5,S), -63))-1)*100
Col D: 6months ((Mov(C/P,5, S) /Ref(Mov( C/P,5,S), -126))-1)*100
Col E: 12months ((Mov(C/P,5, S) /Ref(Mov( C/P,5,S), -250))-1)*100
I like this statement of yours:
..."I know to distinguish something which is work or simply a junk"...
>From this words I assume that you tested the URSC toolkit and find out
that none of the many indicators and explorations are worth the
investment
I can accept that. If we all used the same tools I think the markets
wouldn't move a point ;-)
regards
Fernando
--- In equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com, "thomas12ng" <thomas12ng@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Fernando ,
>
>
> I dont wish to burn you with a fire but there is nothing special from
> this kit or gadget or what so ever up mana tools you wish to mention.
> I assume an indicator is not enough to represent an accomplishment.
> Hence you need to compare a wider scope before you post your idea. I
> know exactly the stuff that you are talking and the intention that
> you wish to said in this forum LOL:)
>
>
> There is nothing new in trading and I am not trying to reinventing
> the wheel here. Here is an indicator that was developed by tech trader
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===
> Col A: Mov(C/P,5,S) /Ref(Mov( C/P,5,S), -5)*100
> {this week compared with one week ago}
> Col B: Mov(C/P,5,S) /Ref(Mov( C/P,5,S), -21)*100
> {this week compared with 4 weeks ago}
> Col C: Mov(C/P,21,E) /Ref(Mov( C/P,21,E) ,-21)*100
> {this month compared with one month ago}
> Col D: Mov(C/P,21,E) /Ref(Mov( C/P,21,E) ,-63)*100
> {this month compared with 3 months ago}
> Col E: Mov(C/P,21,S) /Ref(Mov( C/P,21,S) ,-126)*100
> {this month compared with 6 months ago}
> Col F: Mov(C/P,21,S) /Ref(Mov( C/P,21,S) ,-250)*100
> {this month compared with 12 months ago}
> ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===
> Filter enabled No
> Periodicity Daily
> Records required 2500
>
>
> Together, adding Preston's coding this will be another relative
> strength comparison indicator. All you need to do is to add up. the
> logic behind this argument. Trading is a business, not a sport or
> game or a dream. NOw I wish to pull a logic thinking not an
> imagination I hope :)
>
>
> Q: the system is so profitable and the past result( equity curve )
> from testing is so smooth
>
> Statement: the system was stop out from trading course and was even
> never being traded. may be there is a wrong coding somewhere
>
> Q: is testing reflecting the future?
>
> Statement: past performance is not an indicative of a future
> performance but we can use a past result as a bench mark. Hence I
> always try to use a run a real simulation by using a real account as
> a am living at present not a history :). therefore it is improtant to
> let a system run for a while then after you have develop you
> confident you can trade it with your own risk.
>
> I trade equity CFD and some options for almost 3 years. and most
> importantly the open profit is not effected by current market
> condition. I know to distinguish something which is work or simply a
> junk. I hope this gives a better explanation for those who start
> trading or wish to build their own strategy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com, pumrysh <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's one you might want to look at.
> >
> > RELATIVE STRENGTH OF STOCK TO INDEX
> > Here is what I have been using as Relative strength (RSC)Compared
> to
> > the XAO
> > Column A: CLOSE
> > Column B: If( (Ref(Div(CLOSE, P),-4) > Ref(Mov(Div( C,P),30,E) ,-
> > 4)),1,0)
> > Column C: If( (Ref(Div(CLOSE, P),-3) > Ref(Mov(Div( C,P),30,E) ,-
> > 3)),1,0)
> > Column D: If( (Ref(Div(CLOSE, P),-2) > Ref(Mov(Div( C,P),30,E) ,-
> > 2)),1,0)
> > Column E: If( (Ref(Div(CLOSE, P),-1) > Ref(Mov(Div( C,P),30,E) ,-
> > 1)),1,0)
> > Column F: (( C/P - Mov(C/P,30,E) ) / Mov(C/P,30,E) ) * 100
> > Filter: Div(C,P)> Mov(Div(C,P) ,30,E) AND colB=1 AND colC =1 AND
> colD
> > = 1 AND colE =1
> > I name columns B - E period 1, 2, 3, etc.
> > Open The chart of the index you wish to get the relative strength
> of
> > the securities on make periodicity "Week".
> > In the options area of the exploration editor change to Week.
> > This formula will select securities that have outperform the index
> > over the last 5 weeks. The formula in column F provides a way to
> > rank the securities in terms of their recent performance relative
> to
> > the index.
> > Frederick W McKenzie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com, "Fernando Santos"
> > <ptc_man3@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think the name says it all, TOOLKIT. The URSC is a tool to help
> > you
> > > in your market analysis and/or trading decisions. The URSC is not
> a
> > > trading system, although you can make one based on what he is
> > telling
> > > you. Your imagination is the limit.
> > >
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Fernando
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com, "thomas12ng" <thomas12ng@ >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com, "Fernando Santos"
> > > > <ptc_man3@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For a normal trend strength you can use GMMA which can you get
> > from
> > > > wilson tech stat. It is free. Regarding URSC, I dont wish to
> say
> > > > anything on this toolkit. no body knows that maybe your trading
> > > > result might end up or being stoped out from trading :)
> > > >
> > > > Try to use something use simple but useful.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > For me, the best way for plot an RSC is Jose's URSC Toolkit
> > that you
> > > > > can find here URSC Toolkit
> > > > > <http://www.metastoc ktools.com/ URSC/URSC. htm>
> > > > >
> > > > > You can compare basically everything you want with this
> > toolkit and
> > > > > see in real % terms the RSC of that comparison.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fire aka Spyglass, plot and RSC line between 0 and 100. What
> > is
> > > > this?
> > > > > What this values represent? Compare the financial sector with
> > the
> > > > > s&p500 and you see that it's at 75. 75 what? How can we make
> an
> > > > > analysis using such values?
> > > > >
> > > > > Among many others things, that is why Jose's URSC Toolkit
> beats
> > > > > everything outhere.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > regards
> > > > > Fernando
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In equismetastock@ yahoogroups. com, "artopliffmd"
> > <artopliffmd@ >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know how to create an external relative
> strength
> > > > indicator
> > > > > > for Metastock that would compare a stocks performance to
> the
> > S
> > > > and P
> > > > > > maybe in 4 timeframes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (ROC 20 days, 60 days, 120 days, 250 days) or any other
> > ideas. I
> > > > have
> > > > > > a commercial one spyglass but it is a pain to use
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Once this is created how do you link it to the index for
> > > > comparison?
> > > > > > Any one know the parameters IBD uses for relative strength?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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