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Preston

Many thanks for your help and effort in this problem. However if you
don´t mind I would like to ask about logic behind 
(Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" )
>  -LLV(Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),48)) 
> /(HHV(Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),48)
> -LLV(Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),48)
> +.0000001)*100.
Could you in English just explain what it means?
Yours gratefully
PAUL 




--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@xxx> wrote:
>
> Paul,
> 
> That's great!
> 
> Okay, I had a chance to look at it with Metastock open and I think 
> you will like this one better.
> 
> (Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" )
>  -LLV(Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),48)) 
> /(HHV(Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),48)
> -LLV(Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),48)
> +.0000001)*100
> 
> 
> Basically a normalized Zero Lag MACD. As an indicator you can use 
> the following with any indicator, just place your indicator where 
> noted and remove the brackets.
> 
> {Normalized Indicator}
> Ind:= {your indicator here};
> Npds:=Input("periods to normalize",
>  1,500,48);
> Norm:=(Ind-LLV(Ind,Npds))
>  /(HHV(Ind,Npds)-LLV(Ind,Npds)+.0000001)*100;
> Norm
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Preston
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "paul_vicmar" 
> <paul_vicmar@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanxs success.
> > 
> > PAUL
> > 
> > 
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Try this:
> > > 
> > > (Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ) -
> > > Mov( Fml( "Zero Lag MACD"),9,EXPONENTIAL)/
> > > Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ) +
> > >  Mov( Fml( "Zero Lag MACD"),9,EXPONENTIAL))* 100
> > > 
> > > If not I'm check it out later this pm.
> > > 
> > > Preston
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "paul_vicmar" 
> > > <paul_vicmar@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Preston
> > > > 
> > > > Thanxs for the repsonse. Columm E is OK however Column F is 
> still
> > > > incorrect. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I will be away from my computer until late afternoon so I 
> can 
> > > only 
> > > > > give some glancing views right now. I do see one immediate 
> > > problem.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Col E Prev MA
> > > > > Ref Mov(Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),9,EXPONENTIAL),-1)
> > > > > 
> > > > > should be 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Col E Prev MA
> > > > > Ref(Mov(Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),9,EXPONENTIAL),-1)
> > > > > 
> > > > > I also think column F should be changed to 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Col F %
> > > > > ((Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ) - Mov( Fml( "Zero Lag MACD"
> > > > > ),9,EXPONENTIAL))/ ((Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ) + Mov( Fml
> ( "Zero Lag 
> > > > > MACD"),9,EXPONENTIAL))* 100 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't have Metastock right now so that may not be correct. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm not sure about the code not working. The original 
> discussion 
> > > was 
> > > > > in January of 2007, so you could go back to 
> > > > > http://www.purebytes.com/cgi-local/swish/swish-cgi.pl
> > > > > and look at the original discussion about it. Part of the 
> code 
> > > given 
> > > > > is Amibroker and won't work in Metastock.
> > > > > 
> > > > > hope this helps,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Preston
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "paul_vicmar" 
> > > > > <paul_vicmar@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Preston
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanxs for the heads up on the discussion of lag in moving 
> > > > > averages. I
> > > > > > had a read through.
> > > > > > So I thought I would go ahead and see if I could not use 
> the 
> > > > > existing
> > > > > > MACD exploration in Metastock and just substitute normal 
> MACD 
> > > with
> > > > > > Zero lag MACD. And keep the trigger signal as a 9 day EMA, 
> as it
> > > > > > produces fewer whipsaws than for example the Zero lag MACD 
> > > Trigger
> > > > > > Signal. However there seems to be a problem.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Zero Lag MACD Exploration
> > > > > > Col A Close
> > > > > > CLOSE
> > > > > > Col B Zero Lag MACD
> > > > > > Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" )
> > > > > > Col C Previous MACD
> > > > > > Ref( Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),-1)
> > > > > > Col D Mov Ave
> > > > > > Mov( Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),9,EXPONENTIAL)
> > > > > > Col E Prev MA
> > > > > > Ref Mov(Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),9,EXPONENTIAL),-1)
> > > > > > Col F %
> > > > > > ((Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ) - Mov( Fml( "Zero Lag MACD"
> > > > > > ),9,EXPONENTIAL))/ Mov( Fml( "Zero Lag 
> MACD" ),9,EXPONENTIAL)) 
> > > * 
> > > > > 100 
> > > > > > Filter
> > > > > > CROSS (Fml( "Zero Lag MACD" ),Mov( Fml( "Zero Lag 
> > > > > MACD" ),9,EXPONENTIAL)
> > > > > > Any advice to solve the problem would be helpful. 
> > > > > > I also had a look at the JMA equivalent PMA, but I was 
> unable 
> > > to 
> > > > > copy
> > > > > > and paste the PMA into Metastock.
> > > > > > http://trader.online.pl/MSZ/e-w-Moving_Average_Phased.html
> > > > > > I am using Metastock 6.52.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yours
> > > > > > PAUL
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paul,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The original discussion was about lag in moving averages 
> and 
> > > > > occurred 
> > > > > > > in 2001.
> > > > > > > Go here 
> > > > > > > http://www.purebytes.com/cgi-local/swish/swish-cgi.pl
> > > > > > > and look under metastock and 2001 for all the 
> discussions.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm not aware of the zerolag being part of the canned 
> > > metastock 
> > > > > > > package.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It's easy enough though to write it but you might want 
> to 
> > > > > consider 
> > > > > > > using the smoothed version of a Jurik type MA that we 
> came up 
> > > > > with 
> > > > > > > earlier this year. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The mechanics of the exploration will be the same no 
> matter 
> > > > > whether 
> > > > > > > you use an EMA, a Zerolag EMA, or a Jurik type EMA. Its 
> just 
> > > a 
> > > > > matter 
> > > > > > > of deciding which you want to use.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If you want to do a zerolag let me know and we'll 
> proceed.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Preston
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "paul_vicmar" 
> > > > > > > <paul_vicmar@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > OK, so I have a page that provides a Zero Lag MACD 
> > > exploration
> > > > > > > > http://trader.online.pl/MSZ/e-ex-
> > > Zero_Lag_EMA_Exploration.html 
> > > > > > > > but the code for the indicator given is incorrect and 
> comes 
> > > up 
> > > > > with 
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > error message.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Indicator : DS_EMA_X_MP()
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Formula : if ( Cross(mov(mov(mp(),4,e))4,e),mov(mov(mp
> > > (),8,e))
> > > > > > > 8,e)),1,
> > > > > > > >           if (Cross(mov(mov(mp(),8,e))8,e),mov(mov(mp
> > > (),4,e))
> > > > > 4,e)),-
> > > > > > > 1,
> > > > > > > >           0))
> > > > > > > > And whilst I understand your logic of using a MACD 
> > > exploration 
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > substituting normal MACD for Zero Lag MACD I don´t 
> know if 
> > > my
> > > > > > > > understanding of Metastock formula is enough to 
> achieve 
> > > this. 
> > > > > > > > I read somewhere on recent versions of Metastock(9.1) 
> that 
> > > a 
> > > > > zero 
> > > > > > > lag
> > > > > > > > MACD exploration comes as a standard exploration.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yours
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > PAUL
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh 
> <no_reply@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Paul,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Do you have a normal EMA crossover and MACD 
> exploration 
> > > that 
> > > > > you 
> > > > > > > like?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Preston
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "paul_vicmar" 
> > > > > > > > > <paul_vicmar@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have been looking at Zero Lag EMA and MACD and 
> have 
> > > > > noticed 
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > timely the signals are in respect to other MA 
> systems.
> > > > > > > > > > I have been trawling the net in all the usual 
> sites to 
> > > see 
> > > > > if I 
> > > > > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > > find a suitable Zero Lag MACD exploration or Zero 
> Lag 
> > > EMA 
> > > > > > > Crossover
> > > > > > > > > > Exploration. But without any success. 
> > > > > > > > > > This is the formula I am using for Zero lag EMA 
> > > > > > > > > > Period:= Input("What Period",1,250,10);
> > > > > > > > > > EMA1:= Mov(CLOSE,Period,E);
> > > > > > > > > > EMA2:= Mov(EMA1,Period,E);
> > > > > > > > > > Difference:= EMA1 - EMA2;
> > > > > > > > > > ZeroLagEMA:= EMA1 + Difference;
> > > > > > > > > > ZeroLagEMA
> > > > > > > > > > And this is the formula for Zero Lag MACD
> > > > > > > > > > EMA1:= Mov(CLOSE,13,E);
> > > > > > > > > > EMA2:= Mov(EMA1,13,E);
> > > > > > > > > > Difference:= EMA1 - EMA2;
> > > > > > > > > > ZeroLagEMA13:= EMA1 + Difference;
> > > > > > > > > > EMA1:= Mov(CLOSE,21,E);
> > > > > > > > > > EMA2:= Mov(EMA1,21,E);
> > > > > > > > > > Difference:= EMA1 - EMA2;
> > > > > > > > > > ZeroLagEMA21:= EMA1 + Difference;
> > > > > > > > > > ZeroLagMACD:=ZeroLagEMA13 - 
> ZeroLagEMA21;ZeroLagMACD
> > > > > > > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > > > > > Thanxs
> > > > > > > > > > PAUL
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




 
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