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Can anybody tell me how I can read out the Fxxx.dat file kept by Metastock?
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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:43 AM
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Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Digest Number 1562


There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

   1.  QQQQ Data    
         From: "haders2003" haders2003@xxxxxxxxx
   2.  Re: Multiple Entry Triggers    
         From: "Lionel Issen" lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
   3.  Re: A Volume-Price Divergence Finder    
         From: "Lionel Issen" lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
   4.  Re: equity technicals    
         From: "Lionel Issen" lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
   5.  Re[2]: [EquisMetaStock Group] A Volume-Price Divergence Finder    
         From: "Paolo" italoarg76@xxxxxxxx
   6.  Re: MsCmdLineUtilsV1.7.2 released.    
         From: "Jose Silva" josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx
   7.  Re: Multiple Entry Triggers    
         From: "Jose Silva" josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx
   8.  Re: Programming In A Line   Can you Define a line in Comp    
         From: "metstocktrader" disposable10@xxxxxxxxxxx
   9.  Re: trading as a sport    
         From: "rvalue1" rvalue1@xxxxxxxxx
   10.  Re: Programming In A Line   Can you Define a line in Comp    
         From: "metstocktrader" disposable10@xxxxxxxxxxx
   11.  Re: Daytrading Dow30 with CFDs. Strategies?    
         From: "Jose Silva" josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx

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Message 1 
    From: "haders2003" haders2003@xxxxxxxxx
    Date: Mon May 22, 2006 2:20pm(PDT) 
Subject: QQQQ Data

Hi

I would appreciate any help with finding QQQQ hourly (or shorter)
data.  I have some but I need more from a different period to double 
check my conclusions.

Many Thanks.

Steve Hadcroft








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Message 2 
    From: "Lionel Issen" lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Date: Mon May 22, 2006 3:04pm(PDT) 
Subject: Re: Multiple Entry Triggers

Line 3 of the code is missing a right parenthesis 

 

There may be others missing. Do a careful check of your commas, colons and
count your right and left parenthesis.

 

Lionel

 

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From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Paolo
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:30 AM
To: kanga_hd
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Multiple Entry Triggers

 

Hi!
   My name is Pablo. I'm just starting to post in [EquisMetaStock Group]
I sorprised when a women knows about stocks or programming but in your
case you know about both! so I REALLY sorprised! :)
I thought I is a game for guys (how wrong!)
I just want to congratulate you.
Cheers,
       Pablo

BTW: can you tell me what is the idea behind this formula ?
       
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > Methinks I have a slight problem...I want to use multiple entry 
>> > triggers (as shown below):
>> > 
>> > Fml("CARYS")   AND
>> > Fml( "HD CROSSOVER ")   AND
>> > Cross( PDI(21) > MDI(21)   AND
>> > ATR(30)/C >=0.01   AND
>> > ATR(30)/C <=0.05   AND
>> > Mov(C,21,S)*Mov(V,21,S) >= 100000   AND
>> > Mov(C,21,S)*Mov(V,21,S) <= 40000000   AND
>> > Mov(C,200,S) >= Ref(Mov(C,200,S),-50)+ 1.5*ATR(50)   AND
>> > C >= 0.5   AND
>> > C <= 15
>> > 
>> > This is written in the Indicator Builder and called up as Fml in 
>> > Explorer.
>> > 
>> > Unfortunately, it calls for a comma and other parameters after 
k> the 
>> > last entry.
>> > I've tried the comma, the semi-colon, brackets, changing this to 
>> > an "IF" formula - all to no avail.
>> > 
>> > Can anyone please help ????
>> > 
>> >         Thanks heaps,   Helena
>> >
>>











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Message 3 
    From: "Lionel Issen" lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Date: Mon May 22, 2006 3:16pm(PDT) 
Subject: Re: A Volume-Price Divergence Finder

Paolo:

 

There is no need to apologize for your English, it is excellent and my
better than my command of Italian (=<0).

 

Please keep on posting.

 

Lionel

 

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From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Paolo
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:30 PM
To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] A Volume-Price Divergence Finder

 

Friends:
        Andrew 've shown that my price oscilator was invented by
DiNapoli (italian ?) :)
Here there is a indicator to see how strong is a negative divergence
between volume and price.
I hope It has no copyright!!!!!!

{ VP-DIV: Finder of negative divergences between volume and price }
Periods:=5; {5 or 6 are the best values tested}
If(V<Mov(V,Periods,E) AND V<Ref(V,-Periods) AND C>Mov(C,Periods,E) AND
C>Ref(C,-Periods),-Mov(V,Periods,S)/Mov(V,100,S),0);
{Pablo Bozzolo - May 2006}

Where  Mov(V,Periods,S)/Mov(V,100,S),0)  try  to  be  a measure of the
strenght of divergence.

Sometimes when a huge divergence is shown the price don't go down but
it enters in a trading zone (neutral).

I use this indicator daily.
Good luck!
          Pablo

PD: sorry because when I try to write fast in english I make a lot of
mistakes.

AT> Hi Paolo

AT> The oscillator you are describing is simply showing the deviation of the
AT> close from an exponential moving average expressed on a percentage
basis. It
AT> is similar to a number of oscillators described in the literature - e.g..
AT> DiNapoli's detrended oscillator, which is the close minus the MA. The
only
AT> difference here is expressing the change on a percentage basis and using
an
AT> EMA instead of a SMA. If you normalize the deviation by dividing by the
AT> standard deviation you get a Bollinger Band variant (close to %b) if you
AT> normalize by ATR you get what I call the Moving Average Deviation. It is
AT> used in many cases (e.g. DiNapoli) as on overbought/oversold indicator.
You
AT> and every other user are, of course, free to use it in whatever way you
AT> like.

AT> With respect, the '-1' is not cosmetic. Mathematically, C/MA -1 is the
same
AT> as (C-MA)/MA, i.e. the deviation of the close from the MA expressed as a
AT> percentage of the MA.

AT> It's great fun playing with indicators in MetaStock. And varying the
AT> formulae can be a good way to appreciate how they work. But you do often
AT> find that someone had the same idea already.

AT> Best
AT> Andrew



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AT> From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
AT> On Behalf Of Paolo
AT> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:26 AM
AT> To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
AT> Subject: Re[2]: [EquisMetaStock Group] A Metastock Price Oscilator

br>>   What parameters do you use with the Ultimate ROC?

AT> Dear Bill,
AT>           the only parameter in this very-simple indicator is the
'number of
AT> periods' (days) of the moving average.
AT> By default it's 12.
AT> So the formula can be more simple yet:

AT> (CLOSE / (Mov(CLOSE,12,E) )) -1 ;

AT> The "-1" is just cosmetic :)

AT> "Andrew Tomlinson" <andrew_tomlinson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> Like  any  other  oscillator,  though,  it  can  show  overbought or 
>> oversold  conditions that are surprisingly persistent, so you should 
>> always wait for price confirmation.

AT> Andrew: this indicator do not show overbough or persistent oversold
AT> conditions. It's very diferent to RSI or Stochastic oscilators.
AT> Thank U very much for your comments :)

AT> Pablo




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Message 4 
    From: "Lionel Issen" lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Date: Mon May 22, 2006 5:36pm(PDT) 
Subject: Re: equity technicals

Can you post a few words of explanation/description?

 

Lionel

 

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Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 6:46 AM
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Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] equity technicals

 

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Message 5 
    From: "Paolo" italoarg76@xxxxxxxx
    Date: Mon May 22, 2006 6:02pm(PDT) 
Subject: Re[2]: [EquisMetaStock Group] A Volume-Price Divergence Finder

Lionel,
       Thank U very much :)
I will continue posting.
I think there is high level of knoledge in this group and I like it.
Best regards,
             Paolo

BTW: I'm italian but my mother language is spanish so my command of
italian is also poor.

LI> Paolo:

LI> There is no need to apologize for your English, it is excellent and my
LI> better than my command of Italian (=<0).

LI> Please keep on posting.
LI> Lionel




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Message 6 
    From: "Jose Silva" josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx
    Date: Mon May 22, 2006 10:25pm(PDT) 
Subject: Re: MsCmdLineUtilsV1.7.2 released.


Many thanks as always for your excellent data-conversion utility, 
Mansoor.  :)


Regards,
jose
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>
> Hi All,
> 
>    This release has some bug fixes, and a progess indicator feature 
> added. You can find this tool in files section of this group.
> The file is MsCmdLineUtilsV1.7.2.tar.gz
> 
> -Regards,
> Mansoor








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Message 7 
    From: "Jose Silva" josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx
    Date: Mon May 22, 2006 10:46pm(PDT) 
Subject: Re: Multiple Entry Triggers


Careful Pablo...
>From experience, women generally make smarter traders than men.  ;)


jose '-)
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--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Paolo <italoarg76@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>    My name is Pablo. I'm just starting to post in [EquisMetaStock
> Group]
> I sorprised when a women knows about stocks or programming but in
> your case you know about both! so I REALLY sorprised! :)
> I thought I is a game for guys (how wrong!)
> I just want to congratulate you.
> Cheers,
>        Pablo
> 
> BTW: can you tell me what is the idea behind this formula ?
>        
> >> > Hi,
> >> > 
> >> > Methinks I have a slight problem...I want to use multiple entry 
> >> > triggers (as shown below):
> >> > 
> >> > Fml("CARYS")   AND
> >> > Fml( "HD CROSSOVER ")   AND
> >> > Cross( PDI(21) > MDI(21)   AND
> >> > ATR(30)/C >=0.01   AND
> >> > ATR(30)/C <=0.05   AND
> >> > Mov(C,21,S)*Mov(V,21,S) >= 100000   AND
> >> > Mov(C,21,S)*Mov(V,21,S) <= 40000000   AND
> >> > Mov(C,200,S) >= Ref(Mov(C,200,S),-50)+ 1.5*ATR(50)   AND
> >> > C >= 0.5   AND
> >> > C <= 15
> >> > 
> >> > This is written in the Indicator Builder and called up as Fml 
in 
> >> > Explorer.
> >> > 
> >> > Unfortunately, it calls for a comma and other parameters after 
> k> the 
> >> > last entry.
> >> > I've tried the comma, the semi-colon, brackets, changing this 
to 
> >> > an "IF" formula - all to no avail.
> >> > 
> >> > Can anyone please help ????
> >> > 
> >> >         Thanks heaps,   Helena







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Message 8 
    From: "metstocktrader" disposable10@xxxxxxxxxxx
    Date: Tue May 23, 2006 6:48am(PDT) 
Subject: Re: Programming In A Line   Can you Define a line in Comp

Thanks Kevin,

However, what I want to do is not scan and find a line.
 
What I want to do is DEFINE my own trend lines.  My goal is to sit
down with 75 or so stocks, define trend lines in say a weekly time
frame, then have my exploration alert me when one of the group is near
a trend line.

I can put all the pieces together except for defining a trend line. 
It's harder than it sounds as it requires some programming ability I
don't have.

--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kevin Barry <kevin_barry@xxx>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> There is a dedicated program called RAMP that reads Metastock files and 
> does (I think) just what you're looking for.
> 
> http://www.nebadawn.com/
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> At 14:31 21/05/2006 +0000, you wrote:
> >First off, thanks for the help others offered in working with weekly
> >and daily data in the same system tests.  Using weekly exploration
> >tools resolved my conflict when trying to do this.
> >
> >This is what I want to do with line.  I'd like to program in a trend
> >line.  NOT LOCATE IT, but program in what I think the trend line is,
> >then have an exploration alert me if the stock or ETF gets close to
> >that line.
> >
> >Now I admit, I'm a programming dummy.  Have any of you done this? Is
> >there any way to define a line so that, maybe weeks or months from now
> >price approaches that line and my system can alert me?  I can create
> >the alert part.  But working out how to program in the line is
beyond me.
> >
> >Why do I want to do this?  I'd like to around trade trend lines.
> >Possibly weekly/daily/monthly And I'd like to do it on a fairly large
> >number of stocks.  And the only way for me to track that many stocks
> >would be to have the computer to do it for me after I set up trend
> >lines, or support/resistance lines for the computer to track.
> >
> >My idea would be to lay down a trend line for stock XYZ then have the
> >computer alert me via explorations or by posting a buy on a chart if
> >that line is approached.  Once the computer tells me price is close to
> >the line, then I could put that stock on a short list I track manually
> >until I decide to buy or ignore.
> >
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Message 9 
    From: "rvalue1" rvalue1@xxxxxxxxx
    Date: Tue May 23, 2006 6:49am(PDT) 
Subject: Re: trading as a sport

Paolo, Women are allowed to lose as much money in the market as we 
men are..

Cheers,
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Paolo <italoarg76@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>    My name is Pablo. I'm just starting to post in [EquisMetaStock 
Group]
> I sorprised when a women knows about stocks or programming but in 
your
> case you know about both! so I REALLY sorprised! :)
> I thought I is a game for guys (how wrong!)
> I just want to congratulate you.
> Cheers,
>        Pablo
> 
> BTW: can you tell me what is the idea behind this formula ?
>        
> >> > Hi,
> >> > 
> >> > Methinks I have a slight problem...I want to use multiple 
entry 
> >> > triggers (as shown below):
> >> > 
> >> > Fml("CARYS")   AND
> >> > Fml( "HD CROSSOVER ")   AND
> >> > Cross( PDI(21) > MDI(21)   AND
> >> > ATR(30)/C >==0.01   AND
> >> > ATR(30)/C <==0.05   AND
> >> > Mov(C,21,S)*Mov(V,21,S) >== 100000   AND
> >> > Mov(C,21,S)*Mov(V,21,S) <== 40000000   AND
> >> > Mov(C,200,S) >== Ref(Mov(C,200,S),-50)+ 1.5*ATR(50)   AND
> >> > C >== 0.5   AND
> >> > C <== 15
> >> > 
> >> > This is written in the Indicator Builder and called up as Fml 
in 
> >> > Explorer.
> >> > 
> >> > Unfortunately, it calls for a comma and other parameters after 
> k> the 
> >> > last entry.
> >> > I've tried the comma, the semi-colon, brackets, changing this 
to 
> >> > an "IF" formula - all to no avail.
> >> > 
> >> > Can anyone please help ????
> >> > 
> >> >         Thanks heaps,   Helena




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Message 10 
    From: "metstocktrader" disposable10@xxxxxxxxxxx
    Date: Tue May 23, 2006 7:08am(PDT) 
Subject: Re: Programming In A Line   Can you Define a line in Comp

Kevin,

 Another responce to you.  I've viewed the video and this might fill
the bill for me.  I may not get to define the line but it has a lot of
flexibility and may do ok for me.  The 350 is a bit steep but I've
been trading now for a few years and I know this thing can save me a
lot of time in what I want to do and my time is worth something $$$.

This would beat having to define each trend line myself.  It seems to
do a fairly good job of finding lines.

--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kevin Barry <kevin_barry@xxx>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> There is a dedicated program called RAMP that reads Metastock files and 
> does (I think) just what you're looking for.
> 
> http://www.nebadawn.com/
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> At 14:31 21/05/2006 +0000, you wrote:
> >First off, thanks for the help others offered in working with weekly
> >and daily data in the same system tests.  Using weekly exploration
> >tools resolved my conflict when trying to do this.
> >
> >This is what I want to do with line.  I'd like to program in a trend
> >line.  NOT LOCATE IT, but program in what I think the trend line is,
> >then have an exploration alert me if the stock or ETF gets close to
> >that line.
> >
> >Now I admit, I'm a programming dummy.  Have any of you done this? Is
> >there any way to define a line so that, maybe weeks or months from now
> >price approaches that line and my system can alert me?  I can create
> >the alert part.  But working out how to program in the line is
beyond me.
> >
> >Why do I want to do this?  I'd like to around trade trend lines.
> >Possibly weekly/daily/monthly And I'd like to do it on a fairly large
> >number of stocks.  And the only way for me to track that many stocks
> >would be to have the computer to do it for me after I set up trend
> >lines, or support/resistance lines for the computer to track.
> >
> >My idea would be to lay down a trend line for stock XYZ then have the
> >computer alert me via explorations or by posting a buy on a chart if
> >that line is approached.  Once the computer tells me price is close to
> >the line, then I could put that stock on a short list I track manually
> >until I decide to buy or ignore.
> >
> >So, anyone know how to define a line for the computer to monitor?
> >
> >
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Message 11 
    From: "Jose Silva" josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx
    Date: Tue May 23, 2006 7:11am(PDT) 
Subject: Re: Daytrading Dow30 with CFDs. Strategies?

David, how is it going with Larry Williams' trading seminars in 
Australia - still scheduled for June now that he is out on bail?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/05/23/1148150241879.html

"The fact of life is that he is well-known to the media and therefore, 
around the world, as the father of a very famous actress."  :D


jose '-)





--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, David Hunt <adest@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> Firstly, you may think you are not paying Commissions - but if you 
> are trading on a 4 Tick Spread in a market where you can trade the 
> futures for a 1 Tick spread you are paying a lot more spread than 
any 
> commission you would pay!! CFDs are really just undated futures 
> contracts that can be rolled out for an interest cost. Futures are 
> cheaper to trade.
> 
> I was speaking with Larry Williams last week for the seminars he is 
> doing in Australia and New Zealand and he has been trading a lot of 
> Forex and he has found a way to trade Forex without much spread at 
> all - says he is having great fun trading forex. Should be real 
> interesting to watch Larry Williams trade Forex live at the Million 
> Dollar Challenge.
> 
> Secondly, if when day trading one needs tight spreads, lower 
> commissions and more volatility than normal end of day trading 
> markets. Levarage means costs are a little lower for the position 
> size but traders need to be able to scratch trades quick - with a 4 
> Tick spread scratching a trade is punishing - as it means 8 Ticks 
> Spread on Entry and Exit.
> 
> If the Bucket Shops (read Reminiscences of a Stock Operator ) hedge 
> your trade (if they hedge - because usually they just bet that you 
> will lose your dough) using the underlying futures.  The marketing 
> director of a big Bucket Shop told me a few years ago they worked on 
> the stats that 90% of their customers lose, so they just  often hold 
> the trades their customers give them. Then run their own price made 
> market to hit the stops and take their profits when undercapitalised 
> and scared customers stop themselves out).
> 
> So you are actually better off trading the underlying that the 
bucket 
> shop would use to manage its risk. Undercapitalised and Smaller size 
> accounts could consider the Mini Contracts.
> 
> Regards
> David Hunt
> http://www.adest.com.au






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