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Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Risking 2% for investment, but what to do with the the rest of 98%?



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Perhaps this extract from the MACD Histogram Divergence kit's 
documentation can help.
http://www.metastocktools.com/MACDH/MACDH.pdf

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Variable position sizing
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The variable position sizing indicator displays a suggested position 
size value to normalize trade risk to a specified % limit.
It takes the risk based on the (ATR-based) SmartStop initial stop, and 
calculates an appropriate trade position size.

Variable position sizing involves decreasing trade size on riskier 
(higher volatility) trades, and increasing it on safer (lower 
volatility) trades.  The result is that trade risk should 
theoretically (severe price slippage may alter risk) remain the same 
for all trades.

Should variable position sizing theoretically result in a similar 
total profit when compared to a fixed-position size strategy?  After 
all, what we lose on those big (now smaller) spectacular wins, we can 
gain from smaller (spectacular) losses and (now bigger) wins on the 
larger, safer trades.

In reality, the final result between these two strategies can be quite 
different.

By normalizing the total risk with risk-based variable position 
sizing, the result is a *smoother equity curve*.
This results in less overall capital risk, and thus increases the 
trader's confidence and ability to place a larger proportion of his 
working capital into his trading strategy.
And larger trades in turn equates to larger profits for the same (or 
lower) amount of original risk.

Below is an example of how variable position sizing can be applied to 
non-leveraged trades:

StdEq$ (standard trade size): total capital / maximum number
                              of open trades / 2;
AvgLoss%:                     Average Acceptable Loss %;
Risk%:                       (Entry Price - (Volatility based Stoploss
                              + Slippage)) / Entry Price x 100;
Variable Position Size:       StdEq$ x AvgLoss% / Risk%.


Example for a safer (less-volatile) trade:

StdEq$ = $100,000 / 10 trades; ($10,000)
AvgLoss% = 8; (8%)
EntryPrice = $10.00;
Stop = $9.50;
Expected exit price slippage = $0.05;
Risk% = ($10.00 - ($9.50 - $0.05)) / $10.00 x 100; (5.5%)
Variable Position Size = $10,000 x 8 / 5.5. ($14,545)


Example for a riskier (volatile) trade:

StdEq$ = $100,000 / 10 trades; ($10,000)
AvgLoss% = 8; (8%)
EntryPrice = $2.00;
Stop = $1.70;
Expected exit price slippage = $0.02;
Risk% = ($2.00 - ($1.70 - $0.02)) / $2.00 x 100; (16%)
Variable Position Size = $10,000 x 8 / 16. ($5,000)


By normalizing maximum trade risk (to 8% in both examples above),
a trader can manage overall capital risk in a more predictable manner.

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jose '-)
http://www.metastocktools.com




--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, chichungchoi <no_reply@xxx> 
wrote:
>
> Thank everyone for suggestion.
> Could you please give me any example on using a measure of
> volatility such as the ATR in determining your position size?
> Thank you 
> Eric
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "david" <dwei9361@> wrote:
>
> 1. Case two
> 
> risk% * total_capital / (entryprice - initialstop)
> 
> = 0.02 * $100000 / $2 = 1000 shares, assuming your entry price was 
> $10 and your intial stop was $8
> 
> So actually 10% of your capital will be committed to the trade in 
> this case.
> 
> 2. You may want to look at using a measure of volatility such as 
> the ATR in determining your position size. 
> 
> Also you may want to consider putting a firm limit on the maximum % 
> of total capital you will allocate to any one trade.
> 
>
> Regards
> Dave
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of chichungchoi
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2006 10:58 AM
> To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Risking 2% for investment, but what 
> to do with the the rest of 98%?
> 
>  
> 
> Account balance is $100,000, I would like to risk 2% [$100,000 x 2% 
> = $2,000] for my investment and would like to purchase XYZ stock at 
> $10, and project the target level at $14 with stop loss level at $8. 
> 
> How much shares should I purchase?
> 
> In case 1, number of shares = $2,000 / $10 = 200 shares.
> I should invest $2,000 for this trade, and require only $2,000 for 
> this investment. Do I put $98,000 into saving account?
> 
> In case 2, number of shares = $2,000 / ($10-$8) = 1,000 shares
> I should risk $2,000 for this trade, and require 1,000 x $10 
> =$10,000 for this investment. Do I put $90,000 into saving account?
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestion on how much shares I should 
> purchase for 2% risk? How to utilize more capital for investment and
> still maintain 2% risk?
> Thank you 
> Eric







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