| PureBytes Links Trading Reference Links | | Hi hml     Have you looked at using the Trade Equity 
indicators and explorations for basic systems testing?     Regards   Roy     ----- Original Message ----- 
 Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] backtest using Explorer..and 
Reference Function ProblemHi Roy,
 
 You have the answer before i got a reply from 
Metastock.  Here is
 what Mr. Golson from Metastock wrote:
 
 The 
explorer tool of MetaStock was not intended to provide back
 testing 
capability.  It was intended to look for securities meeting
 a given set 
of conditions.  Usually, it runs on only the most recent
 data, however, 
as you know, this date can be shifted to an earlier
 value.  Regardless 
of what the date is, the explorer does not load
 any data after that 
date.  So if you had data from the current date
 back to 1980 but set 
the exploration to calculate on the data
 6/15/2004, then no data after 
6/15/2004 would be loaded.  Since this
 data is not loaded, the 
reference function with a positive value is
 undefined.  As far as the 
explorer is concerned, there is no data
 after 6/15/2004.
 
 If you are 
trying to back test with the explorer then you will need
 to change all 
formulas.  Use a negative reference on the buy signal
 and no reference 
for the current price.  This would equate to
 saying, if I bought this 
security x days ago, what would it be worth
 now."
 
 
 Although not 
intended as a backtesting tool, the Explorer can
 certainly can be used to 
backtest data.  "Specific date" in the
 Explorer Option is used for that 
specific purpose (unless one is
 using the most recent date)
 
 As 
suggested to change my formula by using negative reference and no
 reference 
for the current date, this will work..but it is not the
 most efficient 
way.  This will require me to count backward to find
 out which date was 
the signal trigger date for the sole purpose
 forcing an answer for current 
date. I would be better off to
 manually getting the closing price from 
another source.
 
 Equis can certainly improve its functionality and make 
Metastock a
 real backtesting software if this feature was 
available.
 
 HML
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In 
equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Roy Larsen" <rlarsen@xxxx>
 wrote:
 > Hi hml
 >
 >
 > This is not a fault with 
MetaStock. When you set an exploration
 date, all data following that date is 
excluded from the exploration.
 You'll also find that running an exploration 
on current data and
 using a positive Ref() function also returns an N/A 
result. The
 simple reason is that you're trying to access data that doesn't
 exist, or in the case of 1/2/04, data that you have stipulated must
 be 
ignored.
 >
 > A positive reference is only acceptable in the 
Explorer if it is
 offset by an equal or greater negative reference. In other 
words if
 your overall formula is delayed (negative Ref()) by 20 bars from
 2/1/04 then you can include in that formula a positive reference
 that 
allows you to look forward by up to 20 bars. You cannot access
 data that 
occurs after what you define as the current bar.
 >
 >
 > 
Regards
 >
 > Roy
 > www.metastocktips.co.nz
 >
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: hml_nyc
 > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 > Sent: Wednesday, October 
05, 2005 10:19 AM
 > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] backtest using 
Explorer..and
 Reference Function Problem
 >
 >
 > I am 
using the Explorer to do backtest to earlier period.
 >
 > Eg.  
In my Exploration, I use a "specific date" to test my
 Explorer
 > on 
all my stocks from A-Z.
 >
 > I use 1/2/04 as my Specific Date to 
test my Explorer to see which
 > stocks are selected as of 1/2/04.
 >
 > I would like to use the Reference function in the same Explorer to
 > tell me what is the Closing price of the stock let say exactly 10
 > days later from 1/2/04
 >
 > Metastock Help said to 
use          
Reference(C,+10)
 >
 > But that does not give me the answer.  It 
tell me N/A
 >
 > Does anyone experience the same problem?
 >
 > hml
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
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