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Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Using Metastock to trade FUTURES?



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KS,

If you don't mind a few questions:

1) Do you daytrade ES and YM or trade multi-day? 

2) Do you see any benefit from the added granularity of YM over ES
(i.e. YM tick is $1, ES tick is $0.25, but YM is 10x ES which means
ES=$0.25 and YM=$0.10 in apples-to-apples). Does YM's finer
granularity allow your stops to be shaken out less?

3) Leveraging cuts both ways, but e-mini traders only speak of it's
goodness (as you are confirming). Why is that? Have you never been
hurt by the high leverage?

4) "Sleep is not an option because of night trading". I'm assuming
vigilant stop placement for ES/YM end-of-day traders allows for sleep?

Thank you for your help, KS.
Andy.


--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "formulaprimer"
<formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> I can't speak for anybody else but I have been trading the Dow 
> Futures and Dow Mini and S&P mini since it began. Once you trade 
> them you will never go back to stocks. It is because of the 
> leveraging.  All the indexes move in direct relation to the Stock 
> Market indexes so any long term direction must be done with the Big 
> Board not the mini's.  Be warned the Night Trading moves the market 
> tremendously sometimes and sometimes sleep is not an option. 
> Otherwise if your technical analysis is at a high level you will 
> like it. August issue of Futures magazine I think has a good article 
> on options.
> KS.
> 
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser" 
> <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > Vladimir,
> > 
> > Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. 
> > 
> > In your experience, how would you compare trading the index versus
> > trading the futures? For example, trading ES vs. SPX, or NQ vs.
> > QQQQ,... I know the leverage is very different, but besides that 
> how
> > has your experience been?
> > 
> > I have heard that once a trader moves from stocks/indexes to 
> futures,
> > they never return to stocks...
> > 
> > 
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v" <entinv@xxxx> wrote:
> > > From my experience future always track the index.  For example
> > either you
> > > trade QQQQ or NQ
> > > the only real difference is the leverage.
> > > 
> > > Comparing futures to equities if you mean individual stocks, the 
> future
> > > never goes bankrupt therefore it's
> > > safer to buy.  Futures, both commodities and indexes appear to
> > better comply
> > > with the technical analysis
> > > studies in comparison with individual stocks.  Many individual
> > stocks are
> > > not liquid enough to trade and
> > > those most liquid would track corresponding industry/group 
> indexes.
> > > 
> > > Never heard about Track N TRade before.  Looks interesting
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of metastkuser
> > >   Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:56 PM
> > >   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Using Metastock to trade 
> FUTURES?
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Vladimir,
> > > 
> > >   "It doesn't provide continuous contracts, but for ES and YM 
> you can
> > >   use SPY/SPX and DIA/DJI if you need longer term picture."
> > >     -- yes, it occured to me that I can use SPX instead of ES, 
> and DIA
> > >   instead of YM. But, does the future always track the index? 
> Wouldn't
> > >   the future move much faster than the index if the index made a 
> sudden
> > >   large move?
> > > 
> > >   How do you like trading futures compared to equities?
> > > 
> > >   By the way, have you heard of Track N Trade for backtesting 
> futures?
> > > 
> > >   --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v" <entinv@xxxx> wrote:
> > >   > For EOD futures I'm using HSQuote from
> > >   > http://www.downloadjunction.com/product/software/4358/
> > >   > It doesn't provide continuous contracts, but for ES and YM 
> you
> > can use
> > >   > SPY/SPX and DIA/DJI if you
> > >   > need longer term picture.
> > >   > Intraday I'm using MetaServer RT for Interactivebrokers.
> > >   >
> > >   > I don't trade options on futures.
> > >   >
> > >   > Regards,
> > >   >     Vladimir
> > >   >
> > >   >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   >   From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   > [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of 
> metastkuser
> > >   >   Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 8:18 PM
> > >   >   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   >   Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Using Metastock to 
> trade
> > FUTURES?
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >   Vladimir,
> > >   >
> > >   >   If you don't mind answering a couple of questions:
> > >   >
> > >   >   1) I'm only interested in S&P 500 e-mini (ES) and mini-Dow
> > (YM). I use
> > >   >   Reuters for stock/indices end-of-day data. I don't want to 
> pay
> > for the
> > >   >   omplete futures eod package. Do you know where I can get 
> eod
> > data for
> > >   >   just ES and YM?
> > >   >
> > >   >   2) Options on futures. I currently trade options credit
> > spreads on SPX
> > >   >   and would like to try credit spreads on ES and YM. Do you 
> trade
> > >   >   options on futures? Can Metastock support this?
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >   --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v" <entinv@xxxx> 
> wrote:
> > >   >   > Yes, I do.
> > >   >   >
> > >   >   > Vladimir
> > >   >   >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   >   >   From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   >   > [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of 
> metastkuser
> > >   >   >   Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:53 PM
> > >   >   >   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   >   >   Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Using Metastock to 
> trade
> > FUTURES?
> > >   >   >
> > >   >   >
> > >   >   >   Anyone using MS to trade futures?
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