[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

[EquisMetaStock Group] Re: system tester shortcomings...



PureBytes Links

Trading Reference Links

To be fair, I should ask, hesitatingly so, if Roy trades the markets
and what his track record is like.

Regards
MG Ferreira
TsaTsa EOD Programmer and trading model builder
http://www.ferra4models.com
http://fun.ferra4models.com 


--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, superfragalist <no_reply@xxxx>
wrote:
> I use the system tester, but I don't consider the results from it or
> any tester to match what I'm going to get in live trading. The results
> from the tester are relative. You can compare one systems test to
> another systems test if you've used similar settings. This gives you
> basic information as to the number of trades, duration of trades, etc.
> That information can be used to rank systems, define conditions under
> which one system works better than another system. However, if the
> systems tester tells you you're going to get a 28.5% annual rate of
> return and you believe that, oh well.
> 
> After you've traded live for awhile, you should be able to calculate
> the real rate of return for those market conditions. Each set of
> market conditions will have a different rate of return regardless of
> the system design.
> 
> I test almost all systems with buy or sell on open with a 1 bar delay,
> even though I don't trade that way. It's all about keeping the
> comparisons relative. Once the system test is done, I go back to my
> history files, pick periods corresponding to specific market
> conditions, and paper trade the system historically. That gives me a
> feel for what's going to really happen in each of those market
> conditions. I keep those stats and compare them to the live trading
> stats. 
> 
> Yes, it labor intensive but so is earning back the money you lose if
> you believe anybody's system tests results are really right. 
> 
> I don't know Nora or JD. 
> 
> I use version 9 but it has a lot of bugs in it as all previous
> versions of MS have had, and Equis doesn't intend to fix any of the
> bugs because there is no money in fixing bugs as long as the basic
> functions work as described.
> 
> Roy's newsletter is the best source of indicators and MS trading
> methods out there. He covers everything you will ever want to know
> about the tester and explorer. 
> 
> I like some John Ehlers code. Most of it doesn't test out any better
> than anyone else's. The IFT of the RSI is pretty good as is the DCF.
> Both of them are fully explain in the newsletter. 
> 
> I like David's stuff. http://www.alticom.com/indicators/overview.html
> 
> Some of it is coded in Roy's newsletter. Equis has some of it on their
> site but the code is wrong. The code in TASC is wrong also. The B&Q is
> in the newsletter. I've coded several of his indicators, and they work
> better than most of Ehlers except for the IFT and DCF. All of David's
> stuff is hard to code. Oh, well. 
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> 
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "jim" <jimk_30045@xxxx> wrote:
> > dear superfragilistic...how are you..i appreciate your outrageous 
> > unselfish and huge notes on anything you respomd too..i still think 
> > your JD...how's nora doing....and i hope your doing 
> > well....anyway...here is my note...after reading all the
^^(^^(*^*(^*^*
> > (^(*^(*^(*^(*^*(^ crap on the ST...do you use it...and the delay is a 
> > bunch of crap so do you do your alerts at 3:30pm as suggested by the 
> > classic Sprunger note to get an O H L C  and do an order based on the 
> > close....and place your trade by 4...i hope thiu is not 
> > nonsense.......did you upgrade to 9.0.... the mesa note...do you use 
> > any on his code....or s. karnsisch code..thanks...




 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/equismetastock/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    equismetastock-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/