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MG,
I did an exercise on 294 stocks of Euronext using the roc10
of MACD for stocks whos's macd was rising over zero.
 No correlation (-0.07)  is found between the signal and the gains 10 d later.
Greetings,
Paul
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] System building - philosophical question

Yes, I am sort of trying to dodge this as it introduces one more
variable and one less degree of freedom - the level (2,1 or 0.5) of
strength.  The nice thing about this approach is that you have a range
where you will be 'out', say between -1 and +1, and not always 'in'
the market.  Thanks for the reply!  It sounds as if you have done this
already.  What did you use for strength?

Regards
MG Ferreira
TsaTsa EOD Programmer and trading model builder
http://www.ferra4models.com
http://fun.ferra4models.com




--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Paul Lerno" <paul.lerno@xxxx>
wrote:
> Hi MG,
> If you have a formula for strengt (?) then you van examine on a
great sample what value of strengt is statistical
> significant. For instance the 2%,1%,0.5% highest strengt.
> I can examine this for the Euronext equities, but its necessary to
have a mesure for strengt.
> Succes.
> Paul Lerno (paul.lerno@xxxx)
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: mgf_za_1999
>   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 11:53 AM
>   Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] System building - philosophical
question
>
>
>   Hi there,
>
>   This is a general, almost philosophical question, but some of you may
>   have had to deal with it before or may have some ideas on it.  It
>   pertains to automated trading and system building.  If you build an
>   automated trading system, you often create some 'signal' and trade
>   based on this.  Now, this signal could be say the difference between
>   two moving averages, and you trade whenever they cross which will be
>   exactly when the signal crosses the zero line.
>
>   When you evaluate such a system, you buy when the signal goes positive
>   and sell when it goes negative.  All of this is fairly general and
>   fairly common.  Note in this example, however, that the actual value
>   or magnitude of the signal does not play any role - the important
>   thing is when it crosses the zero line.  Again, no rocket science
in this.
>
>   I am toying with the idea to build a system based on the *strength* of
>   the signal rather than when it crosses zero, which introduces some
>   problems.  The question really is, when do you then enter a trade?
>
>   One obvious way is to put some band around zero and trade when the
>   signal goes outside of this band.  This complicates matters as you
>   also have to create this band.  Another way is to still trade on the
>   zero-line crossover, which is fine but then you could just as well
>   stick with the original where the whole system is built around this.
>   You could use a moving average of the signal line and trade when they
>   cross, but this is just the same as trading a zero line crossover.
>
>   What ideas do you have for automatically trading a system using some
>   signal, that are not triggered by this signal crossing zero?
>
>   Regards
>   MG Ferreira
>   TsaTsa EOD Programmer and trading model builder
>   http://www.ferra4models.com
>   http://fun.ferra4models.com
>
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