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Hi MG Ferreira:
  As we go this far for Kalman Filter, I am sincerely appreciated 
your help and suggestion. Kalman Filter is a very good approach on 
managing indicators. I would like to learn more about this subject, 
do you have any recommendation on any materials? so I can explore 
more about managing practices.

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> a weight of 3% means in effect that that
> indicator has been discarded from the system.  So you do not really
> have to worry about physically taking it out - it is out in 
> practise!

The indicator with 3% weight has been discarded from the system 
without physically taking it out. My concern is that if this 
indicator measures the short term momentum, and there is no similar 
indicator performing this task within the pool, then the pool of 
indicators will be less diversified temporarily. If I add another 
similar indicator for short term momentum without replacing the poor 
performance one (3%), then once the poor one recovers on its 
performance, there will be redundant on information for short term 
momentum, which causes a problem.  If the poor performance indicator 
is replaced by a better one, then it causes an inconsistency in 
trading strategy. What should I doooooo? :<

>  I'd be hesitant to change a system too much based on hindsight.
>  I am sure superf can write many comments on such an approach!  

This managing issue is struggling between diversified indicators and 
consistent indicators.  I hope superf or anyone can join our 
discussion.

Thank you very much
Eric :>




--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mgf_za_1999 <no_reply@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> 
> I am glad you are smiling again!
> 
> In terms of the ratio between the weights.  PC will not influence 
it a
> lot and SM will only influence it in the shorter term.  Since the
> weights adjust themselves, a weight of 3% means in effect that that
> indicator has been discarded from the system.  So you do not really
> have to worry about physically taking it out - it is out in 
practise!
> 
> Also, I'd be hesitant to change a system too much based on 
hindsight.
>  I am sure superf can write many comments on such an approach!  You
> can now think of adding more indicators to the system.  Maybe also
> change the range on PC from 0-100 to 0-200 or even 0-500 and play
> around with some of the bigger numbers, say 200.  But there is not 
too
> much in there - the next step is to have individual PC and SM 
values,
> but the complexity it adds I think outweigh the benefit it 
delivers. 
> By the way, I think the system now resembles a neural network to 
some
> extent.
> 
> Since weights are adjusted dynamically they will change over time. 
> This is good and it fades different indicators in and out as they
> deliver or fail to deliver performance.  The only thing that can
> happen, and probably will happen a lot, is that a particular 
indicator
> be faded out completely (like 3% weight).  It is also common to 
have a
> lot of indicators fade out and just one or two dominant ones remain.
> 
> We sometimes force indicators to remain present in a system even if
> they don't work.  You sometimes want to retain an indicator to keep
> the system from being overoptimised even if it does not seem to add
> value.  This depends on the optimisation process too, so I am not 
sure
> how it would apply here.  Again, we are *not* optimising since we
> adjust weights on observed performance and we are not iterating over
> the whole sample.  To do this you need the individual PC and SM
> variables, so I am not sure we really want to go that far here.
> 
> Anyhow, keep us informed of the system's developments.
> 
> Regards
> MG Ferreira
> TsaTsa EOD Programmer and trading model builder
> http://www.ferra4models.com
> http://fun.ferra4models.com 







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