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I try to use optimization as little as possible. Optimization is a
double edged sword. Too much is far worse than not enough.

Curve fit is a complex issue. No one has come up with a definition of
what is a reasonable amount of optimization to avoid the pitfalls of
curve fit. 

One of the benefits of optimizing is you can see the how robust a
particular indicator or set of equations might be. if the trading
statistics show similar results across a range of opt values then the
system is fairly robust and should stand up fairly well over the long run.

Too many people use optimization simply to find the highest P/L ratio
they can get. They pay little attention to how the trading statistics
change across the range of opt values. Those changes can be the first
indication of trouble in the foundation. 

I like to analyze trading statistics year by year. The MS systems
tester makes this particularly hard to do but I take the time to do it
because annual performance and drawdowns are as important as overall
systems performance. Out of sample testing is also necessary. 

As far as MAs go, I never optimize them. If you do, you'll wind up
with a different value every year which is an indication that
optimization is useless on MA's. I do, however, change the time
periods according to market conditions. 

In the month of April, very short MA's were more prudent for me. I
used a 5 bar on Kaufman's AMA. In Nov and Dec of 2004, I had it set to
21. 


--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "jim" <jimk_30045@xxxx> wrote:
> hi super...i read all you comments.....thanks for your excellant 
> assistance when i needed it...i appreciate your sarcasism and your 
> humor...are you jd....and one more ..your moving averages...do you 
> do simple optimized ma's near term on individual instruments to 
> detrmine what values you should be using today...if so how close 
> in ..ie..0/20/30 days.......thanks.....jim.....
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "christie1969us"
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