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RE: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu) Idea for Scott



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If only it was that easy. I can not get the data out of MS, short of manually transferring every symbol. I select the results but the only right mouse click option is "discard". I have tried all the Windows tricks I know, no luck.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:19 PM
To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu) Idea for Scott


I'm sorry Scott, I meant to say copy results from the system tester,
not the explorer. You open your test results page and follow the steps
I've explained. Highlight the results you want to transfer to excel,
copy to the clipboard, etc.





--- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter" <mariani@xxxx> wrote:
> Super,
> Thanks for taking some time to help me!
>
> I know how to get the results from the Explorer, I do not know how
to get
> the results from the System Tester.
> I am excited to try what you suggest but need a little more help to
start.
>
> Scott
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: superfragalist [mailto:jackolso@xxxx]
>   Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:05 AM
>   To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: [Metastockusers] System Tester Results (Redu) Idea for Scott
>
>
>
>   Scott,
>
>   Here's an idea that you can use to test your theory. I explained how
>   to copy results from an exploration into excel and then from excel
>   back into various MS lists.
>
>   Run your systems test year by year on your expert.
>
>   Sort the test alphabetically, and then copy the entire test for each
>   year into a new excel worksheet for that year.
>
>   From each worksheet copy the symbol and it's annual percentage return
>   into a new worksheet. Once you have delete symbols that don't match
>   across all ten columns, you can delete all of the symbols except the
>   first year's. You'll be left with a year by year comparison of the
>   return on each symbol with your expert.
>
>   You can then see which symbols were consistently profitable and which
>   one weren't. This will answer your question.
>
>
>
>
>
>   --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter" <mariani@xxxx> wrote:
>   > Super,
>   > I did read Mr. Wright's series of articles as you suggested
>   previously. I
>   > found it very informative. I found that I was already doing many
of the
>   > things he suggested in developing a system. I have applied many of
>   the ideas
>   > he talked about since reading the articles, more like a book!
>   >
>   > He does not address the validity of throwing out losers, based on a
>   system
>   > test, from an available list of potential stocks to trade.
>   >
>   > I know there are a cagillion system developing books to read. I will
>   pick up
>   > a few to read when I have the time.
>   >
>   > Can you C&P system test results from MS8.0?
>   >
>   > Scott
>   >
>   >
>   >  -----Original Message-----
>   > From: superfragalist [mailto:jackolso@xxxx]
>   > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:34 PM
>   > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: System Tester Results (Redu)
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   Looks like you're using the systems tester without much
knowledge of
>   >   systems development.
>   >
>   >   Read a few books on system design and then you'll see you're
wasting
>   >   your time.
>   >
>   >   There's a very good article on this coming up in the May issue of
>   >   Roy's newsletter.
>   >
>   >   Don't ask for book recommendations because one book won't do it.
>   >   You'll need to read around a dozen or so systems development
books to
>   >   get a really good take on how things work. Once you've done that,
>   >   you'll soon figure out that using TA by itself is not the best
method
>   >   for picking stocks to trade, the performance of any system
based on TA
>   >   is going to dramatically change each year with a lot of losing
years,
>   >   there are no indicators that work even reasonably well across a
>   >   variety of stocks or in changing market conditions, and searching
>   >   thousands of stocks every night for something to trade is in
the long
>   >   run a losing idea.
>   >
>   >   Does that mean you can't make money using TA. You can, but you
have to
>   >   have a well thought out strategy and apply the strategy
appropriately
>   >   for the market conditions.
>   >
>   >   I'm amazed at how many people that refuse to spend a dime on
>   >   education, information, good data or anything else that might help
>   >   them, but they'll pay a guru thousands for useless trading
methods or
>   >   lose thousands more making bad trades. It's baffaling.
>   >
>   >   You can read Charlie Wright's series of articles called
Trading as a
>   >   Business. That will give you some basics about how to approach
this.
>   >   Read all the articles in the series. They all have something
important
>   >   to say.
>   >
>   >   http://www.elitetrader.com/tr/index.cfm?s=17
>   >
>   >   Give Roy's newsletter a try. It's all about MS with the code for
>   >   everything discussed in it. You'll learn more from that in a
few hours
>   >   of reading the back issues than you will from playing with the
systems
>   >   tester for next few years.
>   >
>   >   www.metastocktips.co.nz
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter"
<mariani@xxxx> wrote:
>   >   > O.k.,
>   >   > I have finally cooked the indicators enough (nothing new) to
come up
>   >   with a
>   >   > system that is profitable over several different period back
tests,
>   >   at least
>   >   > in MS. My question is, do I remove the loosing or zero trade
tickers
>   >   from my
>   >   > potential list of tradable tickers I will run my Exploration
on when
>   >   looking
>   >   > for a new trading opportunity? MS seems to be keen on "cleaning
>   up" by
>   >   > removing the losers. Doesn't make sense to me to say because the
>   >   tickers did
>   >   > not hit or make a profit over x amount of periods they will not
>   make a
>   >   > profit in the future. Or does it increase my potential
>   profitability by
>   >   > removing them? Can I somehow export the remaining ticker
symbols to
>   >   excel or
>   >   > csv so I can adjust my HSQuote list accordingly?
>   >   > Thanks, Scott
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >

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