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 Super, 
Thanks 
for taking some time to help me! 
  
I know 
how to get the results from the Explorer, I do not know how to get the results 
from the System Tester. 
I am 
excited to try what you suggest but need a little more help to 
start. 
  
Scott 
   Scott,
  Here's an idea that you can 
  use to test your theory. I explained how to copy results from an 
  exploration into excel and then from excel back into various MS 
  lists.
  Run your systems test year by year on your expert.
  Sort 
  the test alphabetically, and then copy the entire test for each year into a 
  new excel worksheet for that year.
  From each worksheet copy the symbol 
  and it's annual percentage return into a new worksheet. Once you have 
  delete symbols that don't match across all ten columns, you can delete all 
  of the symbols except the first year's. You'll be left with a year by year 
  comparison of the return on each symbol with your expert.
  You can 
  then see which symbols were consistently profitable and which one weren't. 
  This will answer your question. 
 
 
 
 
  --- In 
  Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter" <mariani@xxxx> wrote: > 
  Super, > I did read Mr. Wright's series of articles as you 
  suggested previously. I > found it very informative. I found that I 
  was already doing many of the > things he suggested in developing a 
  system. I have applied many of the ideas > he talked about since 
  reading the articles, more like a book! >  > He does not address 
  the validity of throwing out losers, based on a system > test, from 
  an available list of potential stocks to trade. >  > I know there 
  are a cagillion system developing books to read. I will pick up > a 
  few to read when I have the time. >  > Can you C&P system test 
  results from MS8.0? >  > Scott >  >  >  
  -----Original Message----- > From: superfragalist 
  [mailto:jackolso@xxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:34 PM > 
  To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: 
  System Tester Results (Redu) >  >  >  >   
  Looks like you're using the systems tester without much knowledge 
  of >   systems development. >  >   Read 
  a few books on system design and then you'll see you're 
  wasting >   your time. >  >   There's a 
  very good article on this coming up in the May issue of >   
  Roy's newsletter. >  >   Don't ask for book 
  recommendations because one book won't do it. >   You'll need 
  to read around a dozen or so systems development books to >   
  get a really good take on how things work. Once you've done 
  that, >   you'll soon figure out that using TA by itself is 
  not the best method >   for picking stocks to trade, the 
  performance of any system based on TA >   is going to 
  dramatically change each year with a lot of losing years, >   
  there are no indicators that work even reasonably well across 
  a >   variety of stocks or in changing market conditions, and 
  searching >   thousands of stocks every night for something to 
  trade is in the long >   run a losing idea. > 
   >   Does that mean you can't make money using TA. You can, 
  but you have to >   have a well thought out strategy and apply 
  the strategy appropriately >   for the market 
  conditions. >  >   I'm amazed at how many people that 
  refuse to spend a dime on >   education, information, good 
  data or anything else that might help >   them, but they'll 
  pay a guru thousands for useless trading methods or >   lose 
  thousands more making bad trades. It's baffaling. >  >   
  You can read Charlie Wright's series of articles called Trading as 
  a >   Business. That will give you some basics about how to 
  approach this. >   Read all the articles in the series. They 
  all have something important >   to say. > 
   >   http://www.elitetrader.com/tr/index.cfm?s=17 > 
   >   Give Roy's newsletter a try. It's all about MS with the 
  code for >   everything discussed in it. You'll learn more 
  from that in a few hours >   of reading the back issues than 
  you will from playing with the systems >   tester for next few 
  years. >  >   www.metastocktips.co.nz >  > 
   >  >  >  >  >  >   --- In 
  Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Scooter" <mariani@xxxx> 
  wrote: >   > O.k., >   > I have finally 
  cooked the indicators enough (nothing new) to come up >   with 
  a >   > system that is profitable over several different 
  period back tests, >   at least >   > in 
  MS. My question is, do I remove the loosing or zero trade 
  tickers >   from my >   > potential list of 
  tradable tickers I will run my Exploration on when >   
  looking >   > for a new trading opportunity? MS seems to be 
  keen on "cleaning up" by >   > removing the losers. 
  Doesn't make sense to me to say because the >   tickers 
  did >   > not hit or make a profit over x amount of periods 
  they will not make a >   > profit in the future. Or does 
  it increase my potential profitability by >   > removing 
  them? Can I somehow export the remaining ticker symbols to >   
  excel or >   > csv so I can adjust my HSQuote list 
  accordingly? >   > Thanks, Scott >  >  > 
   >  > 
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