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To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Digest Number 1109
There are 19 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: MetaStock v10
From: chouse1993
2. optimization in the system tester
From: "v" <entinv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: fibonocci time extentions
From: tan tan <sohofelix@xxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: Elliott Waves
From: tan tan <sohofelix@xxxxxxxxx>
5. RE: MetaStock v10
From: "TecloGeo" <teclogeo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: Woodies CCI
From: "hayseedville" <hayseed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: optimization in the system tester
From: "MG Ferreira" <quant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: MetaStock v10
From: "joetrade69" <joetrade69@xxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: Economic Data for Metastock
From: "MS" <marketstudent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
10. RE: MetaStock v10
From: "Lowell Husbands" <lhusbands@xxxxxxx>
11. RE: Re: Economic Data for Metastock
From: "Andrew Tomlinson" <andrew_tomlinson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
12. Re: Merge Data error
From: "joetrade69" <joetrade69@xxxxxxxxx>
13. Re: Economic Data for Metastock
From: sebastiandanconia
14. Re: MetaStock v10
From: "CedarCreekTrading" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxx>
15. Re: MetaStock v10
From: "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx>
16. is this exploration possoble
From: safdar <safdar_ali_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
17. Re: is this exploration possoble
From: "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx>
18. Re: MetaStock v10
From: "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx>
19. Re: MetaStock v10
From: "rvalue1" <rvalue1@xxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 09:05:39 -0000
From: chouse1993
Subject: Re: MetaStock v10
Jose, if that is true then I believe Metastock customers will not
upgrade. I also use Trade Navigator to do things Metastock cannot,
but it has locked data and for this reason it will be dumped at the
first opportunity. I already find myself paying four times for the
same data. This move of data-locking is driven by extreme greed to
squeeze the very last drop of blood from their customers. This is
the first time that I have ever considered dropping Metastock, but
what alternatives?
Regards
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxx>
wrote:
>
> The rumor in the industry has it that Equis is ready to release
> MetaStock v10 sometime this April. Apparently the most significant
> change is that they are finally locking up their data format, so
that
> MetaStock will only accept Reuters data.
> Some data & MetaStock resellers are already considering
alternatives.
>
> I sincerely hope this rumor turns out to be false. In any case, it
> will take a lot more features than data-locking before I consider
> upgrading from MetaStock v8.01.
>
>
> jose '-)
> http://www.metastocktools.com
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 23:17:17 -0500
From: "v" <entinv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: optimization in the system tester
Does optimization feature in the system tester produces curve fitted
indicators ?
If so, what is the usefulness of these?
Thanks,
Vladimir
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:03:40 +0000 (GMT)
From: tan tan <sohofelix@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: fibonocci time extentions
but the problem is if the candlestick appeared two lower peak point,
then which starting ponit of fibo time ex hv to put ?
Arifin Latif <arifinlatif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
dear sunn,
just use the fibo time extension facility already
available in ms. its accessible under insert>
fibonacci> time zones...
just make sure you peg the start of the time zone at
beginning of wave 1 (up or down). i have used this in
my wave analysis all these while - some excerpts from
my articles in the edge malaysia are included at
http://arifin600000.tripod.com
all the best, happy hunting!
arifin latif
"malaysiankgb"
--- sunnmoonin <sunnmoonin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> can anybody help me how to plot fib time extentions
> in meta stock
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:06:57 +0000 (GMT)
From: tan tan <sohofelix@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Elliott Waves
could you point some example of klse stock that already appear in
elliott waves ?
Arifin Latif <arifinlatif@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
i have used advanced get quite a bit and its
definitely the "best elliot wave software" so far...
others include el waves.
but bear in mind that these tools are "too
auto-generated" in such a way a novice can use it
pretty easily.... but then again i have seen a lot of
"wrong forecasts" being generated.
i still believe one needs to understand the principles
of elliot wave b4 jumping to conclusions. in that
respect metastock can do the job just as good, if not
better. for some examples do drop by at my website:
http://arifinedgearticles.tripod.com
all the best,
arifin
--- rvalue1 <rvalue1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> I checked out older archives on Elliott waves
> plug-in and looked up
> Aphomega site as they have the only Metastock
> certified software for
> Elliott waves for metastock. Can someone who
> purchased it tell me if
> they like what they see and how accurate it might be
> for higher
> volumes and index trades? I heard that advanced GET
> was pretty darned
> good with its Elliott waves and PTI/ prediction for
> the 5th wave vs a
> double top.. I am not too keen to spend $2.5K on
> advanced GET as of
> yet..
> Also would like to know if it has an exploration to
> look for good
> correlated stocks that have decent volumes that are
> ready for the 5th
> wave..
>
> Would appreciate some serious feedback..
>
> Rvalue1
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:56:43 -0000
From: "TecloGeo" <teclogeo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: MetaStock v10
That sounds distinctly underwhelming.
There is also an update of E-signal coming out in the next few months
which
should finally see the release of their EFS 2 macro-based language.
They're
also in the process of beefing up the amount of historical intraday data
stored on their servers.
One company looks outwards, one stares at its own navel.
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From: Jose [mailto:josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:23 AM
To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] MetaStock v10
The rumor in the industry has it that Equis is ready to release
MetaStock v10 sometime this April. Apparently the most significant
change is that they are finally locking up their data format, so that
MetaStock will only accept Reuters data.
Some data & MetaStock resellers are already considering alternatives.
I sincerely hope this rumor turns out to be false. In any case, it
will take a lot more features than data-locking before I consider
upgrading from MetaStock v8.01.
jose '-)
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 03:43:25 -0000
From: "hayseedville" <hayseed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Woodies CCI
hey stefan.... woodies system just uses cci set at 6 and 14 most
often on minute charts.... from there he uses trend breaks,
patterns, reflections and such for entry/exit.....
www.woodiescciclub.com has a pdf that explains in much
detail......h
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "timotej53" <timotej53@xxxx>
wrote:
>
>
> I need Woodies CCI system for Metastock. Can anybody help me with
> this?
>
> Regards
>
> Stefan
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:25:10 -0000
From: "MG Ferreira" <quant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: optimization in the system tester
Vladimir,
Yes, it does - sort of. Indirectly you are fitting curves, but, if
used responsibly, then you are really adding lots of value. Books can
and have been written on the subject. Just calculating a simple
moving averge can be seen as curve fitting, so again, the value
depends on how you use it.
We compare it to chess computers. Long ago nobody thought a computer
could play chess well enough to beat a champ, now it happens all the
time. The computer does not know anything about chess, has no
intuition or positional insight, but still plays a pretty good game
due to its calculation ability. So you can also use computing power
to rapidly build up 'experience'. In stead of learning the hard way
that say a very fast moving average cross over strategy does not work,
your optimiser can come back with good results for say moving averages
of length 50 and upwards. Just an example, but if used correctly then
you just 'learned' the easy way that you should not waste time with
fast moving averages.
Regards
MG Ferreira
TsaTsa EOD Programmer and trading model builder
http://tsatsaeod.ferra4models.com
http://www.ferra4models.com
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v" <entinv@xxxx> wrote:
>
> Does optimization feature in the system tester produces curve fitted
> indicators ?
> If so, what is the usefulness of these?
>
> Thanks,
> Vladimir
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:11:13 -0000
From: "joetrade69" <joetrade69@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetaStock v10
"There is nothing as effective as a bunch of facts to spoil a good
rumor"
I doubt they will lock out other data vendors...all that would do is
shoot themselves in the foot.
I'll wait for the truth, rather than jumping to conclusions, based
off of a rumor.
Trader Joe...
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "TecloGeo" <teclogeo@xxxx>
wrote:
> That sounds distinctly underwhelming.
>
> There is also an update of E-signal coming out in the next few
months which
> should finally see the release of their EFS 2 macro-based language.
They're
> also in the process of beefing up the amount of historical intraday
data
> stored on their servers.
>
> One company looks outwards, one stares at its own navel.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Jose [mailto:josesilva22@x...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:23 AM
> To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] MetaStock v10
>
>
>
>
> The rumor in the industry has it that Equis is ready to release
> MetaStock v10 sometime this April. Apparently the most significant
> change is that they are finally locking up their data format, so
that
> MetaStock will only accept Reuters data.
> Some data & MetaStock resellers are already considering
alternatives.
>
> I sincerely hope this rumor turns out to be false. In any case, it
> will take a lot more features than data-locking before I consider
> upgrading from MetaStock v8.01.
>
>
> jose '-)
> http://www.metastocktools.com
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 13:03:32 -0000
From: "MS" <marketstudent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Economic Data for Metastock
> The key to making this really interesting would be in one-click (or
> automatic) updating.
I don't really want to dampen the enthusiasm for MG's
proposed scheme but if I were you I would consider a few things.
* How many data series are you interested in? 3-5? Based on monthly
release schedules this is hardly an insurmountable data entry task.
As for getting the initial series into MS format that is incredibly
easy using the downloader and the convert function. Check it out.
* Prior period revisions are a common feature of economic releases.
Sometimes substantial parts or even the entire series is recalculated
based on new - but alas not always improved - methodologies. Given
this situation I would be very cheery of automatic `black
box' solutions.
* What is your specific interest in looking at this stuff? Are you
trying to find post release correlations with market action (which I
personally believe is pretty much a waste of time) or are you trying
to do LT TA/trend analysis? If it is the former, you may want
*incorrect* data.
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Andrew Tomlinson"
<andrew_tomlinson@xxxx> wrote:
>
> MG
>
> The key to making this really interesting would be in one-click (or
> automatic) updating. Economagic has self-updating Excel files for
some
> series but you still have to go through linking that with
Metastock. The
> amazing thing to me is that data providers who already have the
data (e.g.
> Reuters) don't offer it as part of their retail packages. But then
this is
> the company that shut themselves out of the futures market by not
offering
> adjusted continuous contracts, so maybe not such a surprise.
>
> Andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MG Ferreira [mailto:quant@x...]
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 1:10 AM
> To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Economic Data for Metastock
>
>
>
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> We update our internal database on a weekly basis with this data
from the
> Fed. We have developed all manner of scripts to import the data
into our
> database, and use our own tools to view and manipulate it. But if
there is
> sufficient interest, we could also develop scripts to export this
Fred stuff
> to MS format, taking care of the quarterly problems etc, and upload
it to
> our website where you can access it. We also regularly import lots
of stuff
> from South African vendors, if there is any interest in that. We
are
> working on some java code that read/write stuff in MS format,
pretty similar
> I guess to mansoors' utilities, which we probably will use in the
interim.
>
> Regards
> MG Ferreira
> TsaTsa EOD Programmer and trading model builder
> http://tsatsaeod.ferra4models.com http://www.ferra4models.com
>
>
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "MS" <marketstudent@xxxx>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > > What is the most efficient way of getting economic data into
> > Metastock?
> >
> > The best site I have found for US economic data is the St. Louis
Fed
> > database, which also has a number of interesting market price
series
> > like various bond yields available for download in .csv format.
> >
> > Check them out here: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/
> >
> > One problem, however, is that some of the more interesting series
> > like GDP are compiled on a quarterly basis which means you will
need
> > to do some creative spreadsheet work to get them into a monthly
MS
> > file format.
> >
> > If you want more history than the Fred database provides then the
> > Economagic site is also usually worth taking a look at:
> > http://www.economagic.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Andrew Tomlinson"
> > <andrew_tomlinson@xxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > What is the most efficient way of getting economic data into
> > Metastock? I am
> > > thinking of the common US and global economic statistics that
move
> > markets,
> > > like the monthly non-farm payroll numbers, etc. Most of the
series
> > can be
> > > found in one form or another on the official websites (e.g. the
> > BLS) but the
> > > formats are not always friendly. I don't mind paying a small
> > monthly amount
> > > if I could get it cleanly and efficiently into Metastock format.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your thoughts
> > > Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:36:17 -0500
From: "Lowell Husbands" <lhusbands@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: MetaStock v10
TecloGeo
Excellent Comment!!!
Lowell
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From: TecloGeo [mailto:teclogeo@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 5:57 AM
To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] MetaStock v10
That sounds distinctly underwhelming.
There is also an update of E-signal coming out in the next few months
which should finally see the release of their EFS 2 macro-based
language. They're also in the process of beefing up the amount of
historical intraday data stored on their servers.
One company looks outwards, one stares at its own navel.
_____
From: Jose [mailto:josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:23 AM
To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] MetaStock v10
The rumor in the industry has it that Equis is ready to release
MetaStock v10 sometime this April. Apparently the most significant
change is that they are finally locking up their data format, so that
MetaStock will only accept Reuters data.
Some data & MetaStock resellers are already considering alternatives.
I sincerely hope this rumor turns out to be false. In any case, it
will take a lot more features than data-locking before I consider
upgrading from MetaStock v8.01.
jose '-)
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 15:07:39 -0500
From: "Andrew Tomlinson" <andrew_tomlinson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: Economic Data for Metastock
Agreed. I'm experimenting first with economagic - trying to see if I can
get
the Downloader/convert thing working smoothly from the excel files they
create. OLE might do it too, but it tends to be idiosyncratic.
-----Original Message-----
From: MS [mailto:marketstudent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:04 AM
To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Economic Data for Metastock
> The key to making this really interesting would be in one-click (or
> automatic) updating.
I don't really want to dampen the enthusiasm for MG's
proposed scheme but if I were you I would consider a few things.
* How many data series are you interested in? 3-5? Based on monthly
release schedules this is hardly an insurmountable data entry task.
As for getting the initial series into MS format that is incredibly
easy using the downloader and the convert function. Check it out.
* Prior period revisions are a common feature of economic releases.
Sometimes substantial parts or even the entire series is recalculated
based on new - but alas not always improved - methodologies. Given
this situation I would be very cheery of automatic `black
box' solutions.
* What is your specific interest in looking at this stuff? Are you
trying to find post release correlations with market action (which I
personally believe is pretty much a waste of time) or are you trying
to do LT TA/trend analysis? If it is the former, you may want
*incorrect* data.
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Andrew Tomlinson"
<andrew_tomlinson@xxxx> wrote:
>
> MG
>
> The key to making this really interesting would be in one-click (or
> automatic) updating. Economagic has self-updating Excel files for
some
> series but you still have to go through linking that with
Metastock. The
> amazing thing to me is that data providers who already have the
data (e.g.
> Reuters) don't offer it as part of their retail packages. But then
this is
> the company that shut themselves out of the futures market by not
offering
> adjusted continuous contracts, so maybe not such a surprise.
>
> Andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MG Ferreira [mailto:quant@x...]
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 1:10 AM
> To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Economic Data for Metastock
>
>
>
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> We update our internal database on a weekly basis with this data
from the
> Fed. We have developed all manner of scripts to import the data
into our
> database, and use our own tools to view and manipulate it. But if
there is
> sufficient interest, we could also develop scripts to export this
Fred stuff
> to MS format, taking care of the quarterly problems etc, and upload
it to
> our website where you can access it. We also regularly import lots
of stuff
> from South African vendors, if there is any interest in that. We
are
> working on some java code that read/write stuff in MS format,
pretty similar
> I guess to mansoors' utilities, which we probably will use in the
interim.
>
> Regards
> MG Ferreira
> TsaTsa EOD Programmer and trading model builder
> http://tsatsaeod.ferra4models.com http://www.ferra4models.com
>
>
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "MS" <marketstudent@xxxx>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > > What is the most efficient way of getting economic data into
> > Metastock?
> >
> > The best site I have found for US economic data is the St. Louis
Fed
> > database, which also has a number of interesting market price
series
> > like various bond yields available for download in .csv format.
> >
> > Check them out here: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/
> >
> > One problem, however, is that some of the more interesting series
> > like GDP are compiled on a quarterly basis which means you will
need
> > to do some creative spreadsheet work to get them into a monthly
MS
> > file format.
> >
> > If you want more history than the Fred database provides then the
> > Economagic site is also usually worth taking a look at:
> > http://www.economagic.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Andrew Tomlinson"
> > <andrew_tomlinson@xxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > What is the most efficient way of getting economic data into
> > Metastock? I am
> > > thinking of the common US and global economic statistics that
move
> > markets,
> > > like the monthly non-farm payroll numbers, etc. Most of the
series
> > can be
> > > found in one form or another on the official websites (e.g. the
> > BLS) but the
> > > formats are not always friendly. I don't mind paying a small
> > monthly amount
> > > if I could get it cleanly and efficiently into Metastock format.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your thoughts
> > > Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:07:35 -0000
From: "joetrade69" <joetrade69@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Merge Data error
Sherene,
The number of fields in the 2 files must match. For example, Open
Interest may not be sent by the vendor via DataOnDemand and when
creating a Local data file, the Open Interest option is normally
checked. This would create one that has one more field than the
other. Open the datasheets in the Downloader and if one has the Open
Interest option checked and the other does not, uncheck the Open
Interest box in the one that has it checked.
Trader Joe...
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sherenedhs" <sherenedhs@xxxx>
wrote:
> Dear All
>
> I am trying to merge a security from one sector to another sector.
>
> Initially, there was no problem with the merging.
>
> I can not remember whether I have accidentenaly change the setting,
now I am facing the problem.
>
> The error reads as:
>
> Unable to merge selected security's data beacuse the data fields
are different.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Sherene
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:38:58 -0000
From: sebastiandanconia
Subject: Re: Economic Data for Metastock
I would agree. I keep GDP, CPI, PPI, the All-Commodity Index and non-
farm payrolls in an Excel spreadsheet. The most-recent couple of
periods for the data are almost always "preliminary" and there are
major revisions on occasion. I set up Excel charts for these series,
which works just fine.
As to the predictive quality of economic data, if professional
economists can't pull accurate forecasts out of it I don't know how
we can.:) I just keep the data so that when the headlines
scream "U.S. GDP highest since ...." or "Job growth greatest
since ...", I can see the recent numbers in context so I have a
better handle on what's actually going on.
Luck,
Sebastian
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "MS" <marketstudent@xxxx>
wrote:
>
>
> > The key to making this really interesting would be in one-click
(or
> > automatic) updating.
>
> I don't really want to dampen the enthusiasm for MG's
> proposed scheme but if I were you I would consider a few things.
>
> * How many data series are you interested in? 3-5? Based on
monthly
> release schedules this is hardly an insurmountable data entry
task.
> As for getting the initial series into MS format that is incredibly
> easy using the downloader and the convert function. Check it out.
>
> * Prior period revisions are a common feature of economic
releases.
> Sometimes substantial parts or even the entire series is
recalculated
> based on new - but alas not always improved - methodologies. Given
> this situation I would be very cheery of automatic `black
> box' solutions.
>
> * What is your specific interest in looking at this stuff? Are you
> trying to find post release correlations with market action (which
I
> personally believe is pretty much a waste of time) or are you
trying
> to do LT TA/trend analysis? If it is the former, you may want
> *incorrect* data.
>
>
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Andrew Tomlinson"
> <andrew_tomlinson@xxxx> wrote:
> >
> > MG
> >
> > The key to making this really interesting would be in one-click
(or
> > automatic) updating. Economagic has self-updating Excel files for
> some
> > series but you still have to go through linking that with
> Metastock. The
> > amazing thing to me is that data providers who already have the
> data (e.g.
> > Reuters) don't offer it as part of their retail packages. But
then
> this is
> > the company that shut themselves out of the futures market by not
> offering
> > adjusted continuous contracts, so maybe not such a surprise.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MG Ferreira [mailto:quant@x...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 1:10 AM
> > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Economic Data for Metastock
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > We update our internal database on a weekly basis with this data
> from the
> > Fed. We have developed all manner of scripts to import the data
> into our
> > database, and use our own tools to view and manipulate it. But
if
> there is
> > sufficient interest, we could also develop scripts to export this
> Fred stuff
> > to MS format, taking care of the quarterly problems etc, and
upload
> it to
> > our website where you can access it. We also regularly import
lots
> of stuff
> > from South African vendors, if there is any interest in that. We
> are
> > working on some java code that read/write stuff in MS format,
> pretty similar
> > I guess to mansoors' utilities, which we probably will use in the
> interim.
> >
> > Regards
> > MG Ferreira
> > TsaTsa EOD Programmer and trading model builder
> > http://tsatsaeod.ferra4models.com http://www.ferra4models.com
> >
> >
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "MS" <marketstudent@xxxx>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > What is the most efficient way of getting economic data into
> > > Metastock?
> > >
> > > The best site I have found for US economic data is the St.
Louis
> Fed
> > > database, which also has a number of interesting market price
> series
> > > like various bond yields available for download in .csv format.
> > >
> > > Check them out here: http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/
> > >
> > > One problem, however, is that some of the more interesting
series
> > > like GDP are compiled on a quarterly basis which means you will
> need
> > > to do some creative spreadsheet work to get them into a monthly
> MS
> > > file format.
> > >
> > > If you want more history than the Fred database provides then
the
> > > Economagic site is also usually worth taking a look at:
> > > http://www.economagic.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Andrew Tomlinson"
> > > <andrew_tomlinson@xxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What is the most efficient way of getting economic data into
> > > Metastock? I am
> > > > thinking of the common US and global economic statistics that
> move
> > > markets,
> > > > like the monthly non-farm payroll numbers, etc. Most of the
> series
> > > can be
> > > > found in one form or another on the official websites (e.g.
the
> > > BLS) but the
> > > > formats are not always friendly. I don't mind paying a small
> > > monthly amount
> > > > if I could get it cleanly and efficiently into Metastock
format.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your thoughts
> > > > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:49:55 -0700
From: "CedarCreekTrading" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetaStock v10
Hey Joe,
Do you know how much it is going to cost to upgrade from a "crack"
version of 8.01? Will the "crack" update be the same cost as the basic,
8.01, software ($0.00)?
Just wondering,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: joetrade69
To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] MetaStock v10
"There is nothing as effective as a bunch of facts to spoil a good
rumor"
I doubt they will lock out other data vendors...all that would do is
shoot themselves in the foot.
I'll wait for the truth, rather than jumping to conclusions, based
off of a rumor.
Trader Joe...
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "TecloGeo" <teclogeo@xxxx>
wrote:
> That sounds distinctly underwhelming.
>
> There is also an update of E-signal coming out in the next few
months which
> should finally see the release of their EFS 2 macro-based language.
They're
> also in the process of beefing up the amount of historical intraday
data
> stored on their servers.
>
> One company looks outwards, one stares at its own navel.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Jose [mailto:josesilva22@x...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:23 AM
> To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] MetaStock v10
>
>
>
>
> The rumor in the industry has it that Equis is ready to release
> MetaStock v10 sometime this April. Apparently the most significant
> change is that they are finally locking up their data format, so
that
> MetaStock will only accept Reuters data.
> Some data & MetaStock resellers are already considering
alternatives.
>
> I sincerely hope this rumor turns out to be false. In any case, it
> will take a lot more features than data-locking before I consider
> upgrading from MetaStock v8.01.
>
>
> jose '-)
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 01:02:34 -0000
From: "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetaStock v10
The reality is that if Equis goes ahead with data-locking, apart from
a reduced influx of new MetaStock users, little will change for
established MS users.
Support at this fine forum will continue, and useful trading tools
will continue to be developed for pre-v10 MetaStock versions.
The thing to keep in perspective is that successful trading is only
about 20% charting platform, and 80% strategy/smarts/attitude. Spend
too much time worrying about details (charting tools), and trading
success rates will deteriorate.
Life goes on.
jose '-)
http://www.metastocktools.com
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxx>
wrote:
>
> The rumor in the industry has it that Equis is ready to release
> MetaStock v10 sometime this April. Apparently the most significant
> change is that they are finally locking up their data format, so
> that MetaStock will only accept Reuters data.
> Some data & MetaStock resellers are already considering
> alternatives.
>
> I sincerely hope this rumor turns out to be false. In any case, it
> will take a lot more features than data-locking before I consider
> upgrading from MetaStock v8.01.
>
>
> jose '-)
> http://www.metastocktools.com
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:19:05 +0530
From: safdar <safdar_ali_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: is this exploration possoble
hello all
I am trying to accomplish the following:--
In first column no. of securities which have fallen continuously
for three or more days for ex
abc 3
abd 3
acd 4
def 5
xyz 6
zxz 6 to last possible no.
In second column change in security's price from the date it started
falling to current date(ROC of 3 days if it fell 3 straight or 4 days
if it fell 4 straight days etc)
In third column securities which have risen for 3 or more straight days
for ex
abc 0 0 3
abd 0 0 3
acd 0 0 4
def 0 0 5
xyz 0 0 6
zxz 0 0 7 to last possible no.
And in the fourth column change in security's price from the date it
started rising to current date(ROC of 3 days if it rose 3 straight days
or 4 days if it rose 4 straight days etc)
It seems to me that this is quite difficult , but I am also sure that
nothing is impossible for the esteemed members of this group.
I had posted a similar query few days back and had got accurate solution
from Mr Jose.
I am hoping that will get a solution for this one also.
Safdar
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:59:00 -0000
From: "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: is this exploration possoble
Safdar, your multiple coding requests are relatively easy, but take
time to put together. If this coding is personally valuable to you,
perhaps you should consider paying a professional to put it all
together for you.
Just by chance, I got this email today from www.meta-formula.com :
"Did you know I charge $80 to answer MetaStock coding questions? Well
now you do."
Anyway, here's the code your first column's code, and perhaps others
can help you with the rest:
ColA:
---8<----------
fall:=C<Ref(C,-1);
BarsSince(fall=0)
---8<----------
Filter:
---8<----------
ColA>=3
---8<----------
jose '-)
http://www.metastocktools.com
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, safdar <safdar_ali_b@xxxx>
wrote:
> hello all
> I am trying to accomplish the following:--
> In first column no. of securities which have fallen continuously
> for three or more days for ex
> abc 3
> abd 3
> acd 4
> def 5
> xyz 6
> zxz 6 to last possible no.
>
> In second column change in security's price from the date it started
> falling to current date(ROC of 3 days if it fell 3 straight or 4
> days if it fell 4 straight days etc)
>
> In third column securities which have risen for 3 or more straight
> days for ex
> abc 0 0 3
> abd 0 0 3
> acd 0 0 4
> def 0 0 5
> xyz 0 0 6
> zxz 0 0 7 to last possible no.
>
> And in the fourth column change in security's price from the date
> it started rising to current date(ROC of 3 days if it rose 3
> straight days or 4 days if it rose 4 straight days etc)
>
>
> It seems to me that this is quite difficult, but I am also sure that
> nothing is impossible for the esteemed members of this group.
> I had posted a similar query few days back and had got accurate
> solution from Mr Jose.
> I am hoping that will get a solution for this one also.
>
> Safdar
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:22:11 -0000
From: "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetaStock v10
If the MetaStock data-locking rumor turns out to be true, these are
some of the alternatives I would consider:
1) Stick to the current version of MetaStock (v8.01 is fine) - no need
for added "new features";
2) Prepare for a long learning curve with alternatives such as
AmiBroker.
Although I can code in AmiBroker, choice #1 remains the most
attractive to me. MetaStock v8.01 will work fine for a long time, and
there are some bright people working on some fine MSFL enhancements
that will extend MS's working life well into the next decade.
jose '-)
http://www.metastocktools.com
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, chouse1993 <no_reply@xxxx>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Jose, if that is true then I believe Metastock customers will not
> upgrade. I also use Trade Navigator to do things Metastock cannot,
> but it has locked data and for this reason it will be dumped at the
> first opportunity. I already find myself paying four times for the
> same data. This move of data-locking is driven by extreme greed to
> squeeze the very last drop of blood from their customers. This is
> the first time that I have ever considered dropping Metastock, but
> what alternatives?
>
> Regards
>
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxx>
> wrote:
>
> The rumor in the industry has it that Equis is ready to release
> MetaStock v10 sometime this April. Apparently the most significant
> change is that they are finally locking up their data format, so
> that MetaStock will only accept Reuters data.
> Some data & MetaStock resellers are already considering
> alternatives.
>
> I sincerely hope this rumor turns out to be false. In any case, it
> will take a lot more features than data-locking before I consider
> upgrading from MetaStock v8.01.
>
>
> jose '-)
> http://www.metastocktools.com
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 03:37:58 -0000
From: "rvalue1" <rvalue1@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetaStock v10
If MS does data locking, I too will just have to stick to MS8.01> Its
not too bad. My own opinion of MS went downhill after I realized how
poorly the Enhanced system tester is configured coming out of the box
to the person hoping to use it that way.. and then when I got Power
Pivots Tools I realized afterwards that it went back into the past
and changed pivots as it gathered more data.. there were no warnings
anywhere.. and the system tester for Power Pivots Plus was horribly
screwed up.. made me realize that these guys don't have my best
interest at heart - all they want is a buck..
If MS wants to change its program to MS10.0 it would be far better
served taking inputs and ideas from people from this forum, working
on the upgrade and beta testing it with a few folks here.. and then
releasing a clean version.. My bet is a bunch of people would get the
upgrade.
I for one would love to see a Enhanced system tester that is a lot
cleaner and works to backtest portfolios. That would be a good start.
Not really sure what MS9.0 does with sectors. I have my folders
already by sector and did not really want to mess them up with
downloading MS9.0.. so I stayed away from it. Can't say that i feel
like 9.0 offers me any real benefits.
If Reuters wants to offer data service, it might want to focus on
Forex; although if I went that way, I like Norgate and Richard Dale's
service.. it was very nice.. seamless Forex data into MS8.01.
I don't subscribe to it currently as I do not trade Forex. Probably
will in a couple of years.
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxx>
wrote:
>
> The reality is that if Equis goes ahead with data-locking, apart
from
> a reduced influx of new MetaStock users, little will change for
> established MS users.
>
> Support at this fine forum will continue, and useful trading tools
> will continue to be developed for pre-v10 MetaStock versions.
>
> The thing to keep in perspective is that successful trading is only
> about 20% charting platform, and 80% strategy/smarts/attitude.
Spend
> too much time worrying about details (charting tools), and trading
> success rates will deteriorate.
>
> Life goes on.
>
>
> jose '-)
> http://www.metastocktools.com
>
>
>
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jose" <josesilva22@xxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > The rumor in the industry has it that Equis is ready to release
> > MetaStock v10 sometime this April. Apparently the most
significant
> > change is that they are finally locking up their data format, so
> > that MetaStock will only accept Reuters data.
> > Some data & MetaStock resellers are already considering
> > alternatives.
> >
> > I sincerely hope this rumor turns out to be false. In any case,
it
> > will take a lot more features than data-locking before I consider
> > upgrading from MetaStock v8.01.
> >
> >
> > jose '-)
> > http://www.metastocktools.com
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