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RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Should I follow indicators?



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And then there is the point of view that I don't even want to know what
others before me have done.  Understanding the logic of their concepts is
only important in that it helps one understand how logic and rationale may
be applied to technical analysis.  Then, throw all of it away and develop
your own trading indicators and rules (and, as previously stated, STICK to
them).  With only rudimentary skills in writing custom indicators, you can
do what you need to do.  When you do decide on a plan that works, however,
your final trading strategy must be so tested and so nailed down that you
are afraid NOT to follow it.

It is interesting to see the spectrum of approaches in response to this
topic.  All I can say is, trust no one and no one else's "system" to make
you money.  With MetaStock you have the tool to develop virtually limitless
trading systems of your very own.  What MetaStock can't do is unimportant.
Work with what it can do.  That is enough to fill many, many lifetimes.

I am not minimizing the legitimacy of the body of technical analysis work
done in the past and being done currently.  I am sure much of it is quite
good.  But if the work is not yours, you will never follow it.  As I said
before you must know in your heart that the trading approach you are
following is so good that you are compulsive about following it to a "T",
good trade or bad.  Do every trade.  Second guess nothing.  The work and
planning come first, followed only by execution of that plan.

Best,

Larry Carhartt
Index & ETF Component Analysis
www.MasterDATA.com
lc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
818-701-6686



-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Tomlinson [mailto:andrew_tomlinson@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 6:42 PM
To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Should I follow indicators?




Interesting. I come out somewhere in the middle. I think you need to know a
fair amount in order to have the courage to stay the course. If you've given
yourself a good grounding in TA, then it's harder for some self-appointed
guru to take you for an expensive ride based on his or her interpretation of
some basic indicators that you should have known about anyway. If you've
learnt enough to do some back-testing of your simple idea then you'll have
the fortitude to follow your system through drawdowns.

So at least do some basic homework (e.g. Murphy "Technical Analysis...")
before you start, and learn to do some backtesting. 

Oh, and be careful re Van Tharp. His mathematical rigor leaves a lot to be
desired, although many of the ideas that he summarizes from good traders are
ok. And don't expect to be able to replicate any of his numbers.

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Pam and Ken Johnston [mailto:milocat@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:14 PM
To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Should I follow indicators?




I hate to contradict Superfragalist because its obvious from his posts that 
he knows that about which he speaks but I have to offer a completely 
different opinion.  Trading is made unnecessarily complicated by most 
people.  I remember reading a book about top traders and one of the 
interviewees made a refreshingly different observation about trading, 
essentially he said that the good news was that finding a good method to 
trade that produced excellent results over time wasn't very difficult.  The 
bad news was that having the discipline to stick to any given method was way

beyond most people.
I would forget about 100 different books and psychological consultants. 
Find a simple method that makes sense to you(otherwise you will abandon it) 
and resolve to stick with it.  Astrocycles-time extraction-fibo squares etc 
are likely no better than moving averages-the tough part is picking a method

and staying the course.
I doubt that there is any facet of human existence where the KISS principle 
is more applicable than trading.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "superfragalist" <no_reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Should I follow indicators?


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> Yeah, I have a suggestion. You should read somewhere around a 100
> trading and systems development books, and then if you plow another 
> few thousand hours into understanding what you've read, experimenting 
> and figuring out how to trade with what you've come up with, then 
> you'll be close, really close.
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> There's nothing anyone on here is going to post that will help you
> more than the above mentioned paragraph.
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> If there was one good indicator--or trading method--we'd all be using
> it. We ain't. Indicators fit people and personalities. It's all in 
> what you can use, and no one on here, or anywhere else, can define 
> that for you.
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> Go to amazon buy every book they have on trading and sytems
> development and you'll be off to a relatively mild start, but 
> generally in the right direction.
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> Read Van Tharp's Trade Your Way to Financial Freedom first. That will
> get rid of a lot of your misconceptions like entries are important. 
> Read the other 100 books next, and then read Van Tharp's again. By 
> that time you might have a prayer of getting it.
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> If you want easy--go bowling!
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> Sorry, but them's the realities.
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