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Hi Preston, Now I'm more confuse than before. You simply cant put K% 
>50 in col a and D%<40 in col b. This cant create an exploartion.( i 
tried and an window opened to say so)

Sorry hope this is what you meant.

Thanks 



--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> Lynn,
> 
> Sorry for the confusion. I should have explained a bit. 
> 
> In the system tester our only options are to write conditions such 
as 
> K% > 40. This would generate a list of stocks which fit this 
> criteria. 
> 
> In the exploration there are columns. Since you already have a 
list 
> of stocks, run an exploration on them using the criteria from the 
> system tester.
> 
> What's strange about the problem is that the K% value of less than 
40 
> should have never triggered a signal. In your case though it did. 
I 
> am wondering if you simply changed the periodicity of the chart 
but 
> are using daily data. If this is the case and you really want a 
> weekly system test you will need to rewrite your formulas to 
> weekly...reads last last day of the week only.
> 
> Preston
> 
>   
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "lynn14344" <darisr@xxxx> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Preston,
> > 
> > Yes they are weekly data's. If you were to run the list of 
> > exploartion data attached below you will find most of it listed 
and 
> > done on the 23/12/04 closing did not meet the criteria.
> > 
> > What do you mean by placing the K% in one column and the D% in 
> > another. Care to explain how to go about doing this, and what 
> > exactly tour telling me about. Please forgive me I'm poor in the 
> > metastock software, a newbie in this software.
> > 
> > thank you very much
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@xxxx> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Lynn,
> > > 
> > > The K% value should have thrown the whole exploration out. The 
K% 
> > > value is not within the trigger values of 40 to 60. Rerun the 
> > > exploration and place K% in one column and the D% in another 
to 
> > see 
> > > what the values are. I'm willing to bet the data is not weekly 
> but 
> > is 
> > > daily.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Preston
> > > 
> > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "lynn14344" 
<darisr@xxxx> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Preston 
> > > > 
> > > > The exploration was done on weekly chart, by the way for the 
K% 
> > is 
> > > > 29.58 and D% is 41.57 for the week of ending on the 23/12/04 
> > > trading 
> > > > day.
> > > > 
> > > > The values should have been the opposite for the exploration 
to 
> > > work 
> > > > correctly. Hope you see the different result generated from 
the 
> > > > exploration formula.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh 
<no_reply@xxxx> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Lynn,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again, precision may be the problem. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The values that I got for the day were 51.29 and 52.32. 
These 
> > are 
> > > > > very close and data differences along with rounding could 
> > account 
> > > > for 
> > > > > the problem. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What values did you get for the %k and %D ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Preston
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "lynn14344" 
> > <darisr@xxxx> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi Preston,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for the help but its not the parameters but the 
> > results 
> > > > of 
> > > > > > the exploration that I'm concern with. WMT on the 
> > exploration 
> > > is 
> > > > > > showing the opposite of what the exploartion is suppose 
to 
> > do. 
> > > > The 
> > > > > > exploration formula was suppose to look for golden cross
( 
> > > > meaning 
> > > > > K% 
> > > > > > greater than D%) but it gives a wrong result. The result 
it 
> > > > gives 
> > > > > is 
> > > > > > the value of D% is greater than the K%. Thats what I'm 
> > saying 
> > > > that 
> > > > > > the results is not accurate or the desired results are 
not 
> > met.
> > > > > > And I'm seeking assistance to rectify this problem.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thank you and really hope to resolve this exploration 
> > problem.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thank you again for your kind assistance
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh 
> > <no_reply@xxxx> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Lynn,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Let me interject something that you may want to check.
> > > > > > > The variables that Jose' used were:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > { Variables }
> > > > > > > pdsK:=3;
> > > > > > > pdsSlow:=14;
> > > > > > > pdsD:=3;
> > > > > > > threshold:=50;
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > With these settings I got a STCH of 51.29 and a SIG of 
> > 52.32 
> > > > on 
> > > > > > WMT 
> > > > > > > for the 23rd. Changing the variables to the following:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > { Variables }
> > > > > > > pdsK:=14;
> > > > > > > pdsSlow:=3;
> > > > > > > pdsD:=3;
> > > > > > > threshold:=50;
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > With these settings I got a STCH of 60.86 and a SIG of 
> > 53.25 
> > > > on 
> > > > > > WMT 
> > > > > > > for the 23rd.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This is nothing more than a matter of taste as to how 
> many 
> > > > > > stochastic 
> > > > > > > periods you use and how much smoothing you do. Some 
> > traders 
> > > > like 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > former over the latter. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The Signal condition should have kicked out WMT so I'm 
> > going 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > guess 
> > > > > > > that your data may be a little closer. Unless the 
> > precision 
> > > is 
> > > > > > > defined, metastock will round off the data which may 
have 
> > > > > happened 
> > > > > > in 
> > > > > > > your case. Check the precision function to see how 
this 
> > works.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > { Signal condition }
> > > > > > >  Stch>signal AND Stch>threshold-10 AND 
Stch<threshold+10
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > By all means plot the indicator as Jose' suggest in 
> > another 
> > > > > window 
> > > > > > in 
> > > > > > > order to see the indicator at work.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Preston
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "lynn14344" 
> > > > <darisr@xxxx> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hi Jose
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I'm sorry to say I dont understand what your trying 
to 
> > > > explain. 
> > > > > > I 
> > > > > > > > really am sorry. But if you look at the attached 
> results 
> > > you 
> > > > > > will 
> > > > > > > > find that the results does not meet the required 
> > criteria. 
> > > > Any 
> > > > > > > > further simplier layman explaination please.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jose" 
> > > > > <josesilva22@xxxx> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Lynn, plot these two *indicators* in their own 
window 
> > > > below 
> > > > > > your 
> > > > > > > > > charts:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ---8<------------------
> > > > > > > > > { Variables }
> > > > > > > > > pdsK:=3;
> > > > > > > > > pdsSlow:=14;
> > > > > > > > > pdsD:=3;
> > > > > > > > > threshold:=50;
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > { Stochastic }
> > > > > > > > > Stch:=Stoch(pdsK,pdsSlow);
> > > > > > > > > signal:=Mov(Stch,pdsD,S);
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > { Signal, Stochastic plot }
> > > > > > > > > threshold-10;threshold+10;signal;Stch
> > > > > > > > > ---8<------------------
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The first indicator plots a 3/14 Stochastic, 3EMA 
> > signal 
> > > > > line, 
> > > > > > as 
> > > > > > > > well 
> > > > > > > > > as the 60 and 40 threshold lines as per your 
> > suggestion.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > It's absolutely essential to keep a visual tab on 
our 
> > > > system 
> > > > > > > logic 
> > > > > > > > > with the aid of indicators, rather than take stabs 
in 
> > the 
> > > > > dark 
> > > > > > > > with 
> > > > > > > > > explorations alone.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ---8<------------------
> > > > > > > > > { Variables }
> > > > > > > > > pdsK:=3;
> > > > > > > > > pdsSlow:=14;
> > > > > > > > > pdsD:=3;
> > > > > > > > > threshold:=50;
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > { Stochastic }
> > > > > > > > > Stch:=Stoch(pdsK,pdsSlow);
> > > > > > > > > signal:=Mov(Stch,pdsD,S);
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > { Signal condition }
> > > > > > > > > Stch>signal
> > > > > > > > > AND Stch>threshold-10
> > > > > > > > > AND Stch<threshold+10
> > > > > > > > > ---8<------------------
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The second indicator is identical to the 
exploration 
> > > > filter 
> > > > > > code.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > It says:
> > > > > > > > >  Stochastic must be above its 3EMA signal line,
> > > > > > > > >  AND Stochastic must be greater than 40
> > > > > > > > >  AND Stochastic must be less than 60
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > And that, is precisely what it does.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > It's in the nature of computing that there is no 
room 
> > for 
> > > > > > > > ambiguity.
> > > > > > > > > At the same time, computers are unable to second-
> guess 
> > us 
> > > > or 
> > > > > > make 
> > > > > > > > > decisions for us.  It cannot give us "good 
results" 
> > > > without 
> > > > > > our 
> > > > > > > > full 
> > > > > > > > > input.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The only possible efficiency improvement I can see 
> > here, 
> > > > has 
> > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > > > originate somewhere else outside the Metastock 
> > code.  ;)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > jose '-)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "lynn14344" 
> > > > > > <darisr@xxxx> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Jose
> > > > > > > > > > This a list of stocks under the NYSE and if I do 
an 
> > > > > > exploration 
> > > > > > > > on 
> > > > > > > > > > the weekly chart based on the mentod you 
mentioned 
> > that 
> > > > is 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > pdsK:=3;
> > > > > > > > > > pdsSlow:=14;
> > > > > > > > > > pdsD:=3;
> > > > > > > > > > threshold:=50;
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > { Stochastic }
> > > > > > > > > > Stch:=Stoch(pdsK,pdsSlow);
> > > > > > > > > > signal:=Mov(Stch,pdsD,S);
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > { Signal condition }
> > > > > > > > > > Stch>signal AND Stch>threshold-10 AND 
> > Stch<threshold+10
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > After I did an exploartion based on the last 
thurs 
> > > > trading 
> > > > > > on 
> > > > > > > > NYSE 
> > > > > > > > > > 23/12/04, Only two out of all the stocks 
mentioned 
> > > below 
> > > > > > meets 
> > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > criteria and the last one WMT doesnt meet it 
infact 
> > its 
> > > > in 
> > > > > > > > opposite 
> > > > > > > > > > direction.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > So this is what I meant by it does not give a 
good 
> > > > results. 
> > > > > > Any 
> > > > > > > > way 
> > > > > > > > > > of improving it for better efficiency.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Security Name	
> > > > > > > > > > AIG	AIG	
> > > > > > > > > > AOT	AOT		
> > > > > > > > > > BMY	BMY		
> > > > > > > > > > C	C		
> > > > > > > > > > CPN	CPN		
> > > > > > > > > > HPQ	HPQ		
> > > > > > > > > > JPM	JPM		
> > > > > > > > > > KO	KO		
> > > > > > > > > > MWD	MWD		
> > > > > > > > > > OHP	OHP		
> > > > > > > > > > ONE	ONE		
> > > > > > > > > > RAD	RAD		
> > > > > > > > > > SGP	SGP	
> > > > > > > > > > WMT	WMT		
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for taking your valuable 
time 
> in 
> > > > > looking 
> > > > > > at 
> > > > > > > > my 
> > > > > > > > > > issue.
> > > > > > > > > >





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