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Lynn,

The K% value should have thrown the whole exploration out. The K% 
value is not within the trigger values of 40 to 60. Rerun the 
exploration and place K% in one column and the D% in another to see 
what the values are. I'm willing to bet the data is not weekly but is 
daily.


Preston

--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "lynn14344" <darisr@xxxx> 
wrote:
> 
> Hi Preston 
> 
> The exploration was done on weekly chart, by the way for the K% is 
> 29.58 and D% is 41.57 for the week of ending on the 23/12/04 
trading 
> day.
> 
> The values should have been the opposite for the exploration to 
work 
> correctly. Hope you see the different result generated from the 
> exploration formula.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > 
> > Lynn,
> > 
> > Again, precision may be the problem. 
> > 
> > The values that I got for the day were 51.29 and 52.32. These are 
> > very close and data differences along with rounding could account 
> for 
> > the problem. 
> > 
> > What values did you get for the %k and %D ?
> > 
> > Preston
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "lynn14344" <darisr@xxxx> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi Preston,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the help but its not the parameters but the results 
> of 
> > > the exploration that I'm concern with. WMT on the exploration 
is 
> > > showing the opposite of what the exploartion is suppose to do. 
> The 
> > > exploration formula was suppose to look for golden cross( 
> meaning 
> > K% 
> > > greater than D%) but it gives a wrong result. The result it 
> gives 
> > is 
> > > the value of D% is greater than the K%. Thats what I'm saying 
> that 
> > > the results is not accurate or the desired results are not met.
> > > And I'm seeking assistance to rectify this problem.
> > > 
> > > Thank you and really hope to resolve this exploration problem.
> > > 
> > > Thank you again for your kind assistance
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@xxxx> 
> > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Lynn,
> > > > 
> > > > Let me interject something that you may want to check.
> > > > The variables that Jose' used were:
> > > > 
> > > > { Variables }
> > > > pdsK:=3;
> > > > pdsSlow:=14;
> > > > pdsD:=3;
> > > > threshold:=50;
> > > > 
> > > > With these settings I got a STCH of 51.29 and a SIG of 52.32 
> on 
> > > WMT 
> > > > for the 23rd. Changing the variables to the following:
> > > > 
> > > > { Variables }
> > > > pdsK:=14;
> > > > pdsSlow:=3;
> > > > pdsD:=3;
> > > > threshold:=50;
> > > > 
> > > > With these settings I got a STCH of 60.86 and a SIG of 53.25 
> on 
> > > WMT 
> > > > for the 23rd.
> > > > 
> > > > This is nothing more than a matter of taste as to how many 
> > > stochastic 
> > > > periods you use and how much smoothing you do. Some traders 
> like 
> > > the 
> > > > former over the latter. 
> > > > 
> > > > The Signal condition should have kicked out WMT so I'm going 
> to 
> > > guess 
> > > > that your data may be a little closer. Unless the precision 
is 
> > > > defined, metastock will round off the data which may have 
> > happened 
> > > in 
> > > > your case. Check the precision function to see how this works.
> > > > 
> > > > { Signal condition }
> > > >  Stch>signal AND Stch>threshold-10 AND Stch<threshold+10
> > > > 
> > > > By all means plot the indicator as Jose' suggest in another 
> > window 
> > > in 
> > > > order to see the indicator at work.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Preston
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "lynn14344" 
> <darisr@xxxx> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Jose
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm sorry to say I dont understand what your trying to 
> explain. 
> > > I 
> > > > > really am sorry. But if you look at the attached results 
you 
> > > will 
> > > > > find that the results does not meet the required criteria. 
> Any 
> > > > > further simplier layman explaination please.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jose" 
> > <josesilva22@xxxx> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Lynn, plot these two *indicators* in their own window 
> below 
> > > your 
> > > > > > charts:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ---8<------------------
> > > > > > { Variables }
> > > > > > pdsK:=3;
> > > > > > pdsSlow:=14;
> > > > > > pdsD:=3;
> > > > > > threshold:=50;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > { Stochastic }
> > > > > > Stch:=Stoch(pdsK,pdsSlow);
> > > > > > signal:=Mov(Stch,pdsD,S);
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > { Signal, Stochastic plot }
> > > > > > threshold-10;threshold+10;signal;Stch
> > > > > > ---8<------------------
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The first indicator plots a 3/14 Stochastic, 3EMA signal 
> > line, 
> > > as 
> > > > > well 
> > > > > > as the 60 and 40 threshold lines as per your suggestion.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's absolutely essential to keep a visual tab on our 
> system 
> > > > logic 
> > > > > > with the aid of indicators, rather than take stabs in the 
> > dark 
> > > > > with 
> > > > > > explorations alone.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ---8<------------------
> > > > > > { Variables }
> > > > > > pdsK:=3;
> > > > > > pdsSlow:=14;
> > > > > > pdsD:=3;
> > > > > > threshold:=50;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > { Stochastic }
> > > > > > Stch:=Stoch(pdsK,pdsSlow);
> > > > > > signal:=Mov(Stch,pdsD,S);
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > { Signal condition }
> > > > > > Stch>signal
> > > > > > AND Stch>threshold-10
> > > > > > AND Stch<threshold+10
> > > > > > ---8<------------------
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The second indicator is identical to the exploration 
> filter 
> > > code.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It says:
> > > > > >  Stochastic must be above its 3EMA signal line,
> > > > > >  AND Stochastic must be greater than 40
> > > > > >  AND Stochastic must be less than 60
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And that, is precisely what it does.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's in the nature of computing that there is no room for 
> > > > > ambiguity.
> > > > > > At the same time, computers are unable to second-guess us 
> or 
> > > make 
> > > > > > decisions for us.  It cannot give us "good results" 
> without 
> > > our 
> > > > > full 
> > > > > > input.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The only possible efficiency improvement I can see here, 
> has 
> > > to 
> > > > > > originate somewhere else outside the Metastock code.  ;)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > jose '-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "lynn14344" 
> > > <darisr@xxxx> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi Jose
> > > > > > > This a list of stocks under the NYSE and if I do an 
> > > exploration 
> > > > > on 
> > > > > > > the weekly chart based on the mentod you mentioned that 
> is 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > pdsK:=3;
> > > > > > > pdsSlow:=14;
> > > > > > > pdsD:=3;
> > > > > > > threshold:=50;
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > { Stochastic }
> > > > > > > Stch:=Stoch(pdsK,pdsSlow);
> > > > > > > signal:=Mov(Stch,pdsD,S);
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > { Signal condition }
> > > > > > > Stch>signal AND Stch>threshold-10 AND Stch<threshold+10
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > After I did an exploartion based on the last thurs 
> trading 
> > > on 
> > > > > NYSE 
> > > > > > > 23/12/04, Only two out of all the stocks mentioned 
below 
> > > meets 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > criteria and the last one WMT doesnt meet it infact its 
> in 
> > > > > opposite 
> > > > > > > direction.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So this is what I meant by it does not give a good 
> results. 
> > > Any 
> > > > > way 
> > > > > > > of improving it for better efficiency.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Security Name	
> > > > > > > AIG	AIG	
> > > > > > > AOT	AOT		
> > > > > > > BMY	BMY		
> > > > > > > C	C		
> > > > > > > CPN	CPN		
> > > > > > > HPQ	HPQ		
> > > > > > > JPM	JPM		
> > > > > > > KO	KO		
> > > > > > > MWD	MWD		
> > > > > > > OHP	OHP		
> > > > > > > ONE	ONE		
> > > > > > > RAD	RAD		
> > > > > > > SGP	SGP	
> > > > > > > WMT	WMT		
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you very much for taking your valuable time in 
> > looking 
> > > at 
> > > > > my 
> > > > > > > issue.
> > > > > > >





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