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[EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Trading vs. selling trading tools/seminars



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Andy,

Trading doesn't pay as well as many would have us to believe. That's 
not to say you can't make a living and pull in $100K+ per year. 
Question is can you do it continually? These guys may have a short 
term plan to make a maximum amount in a short period of time and then 
get out. How many of us really sit down and develop a plan to make a 
million or two in five years or less and then retire? 

I'm always struck by the claims that system sellers make. Their 
systems made 65-85% in less than 30 days. That's great but how often 
did those 30 day periods come about? Extend that period over a year 
and the return doesn't seem quite as good. Taking this a step further 
how much investment capital must I have in order to put that $100k in 
my pocket every year?

As far as the secret sauce, I may get all the ingredients but I doubt 
I'll get the right amounts, mixing methods, or cooking times.

Preston

   

--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser" 
<andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> Preston,
> 
> Yes, I see your point -- the risk/reward in selling tools and 
> knowledge can be much better than the r/r of trading.
> 
> Still, the fact that traders need to supplement their income by 
> divulging their "secret sauce" (something rarely done in technology 
> and biotech) makes me think these traders cannot make a sufficient 
> income from trading alone? Still confused...
> 
> Andy
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@xxxx> 
wrote:
> > 
> > Andy,
> > 
> > It may be just a matter of perspective. Calculating the rewards 
for 
> > an instructional seminar you need to realize that there is a 
great 
> > deal of reward with little risk. On the other side if the seminar 
> is 
> > free and I charge you for the tools, I can reap larger rewards 
with 
> a 
> > little higher risk. Compare this then to the risks/reward of 
> trading.
> > 
> > You mentioned also a weekend event. The markets are not really 
> active 
> > over the weekend. This could be a great way to supplement income 
at 
> a 
> > time when you might not otherwise be capable of doing so. 
> > 
> > I once calculated the rewards for a seminar that was conducted in 
> > numerous cities over a two week period. The per registrant income 
> was 
> > only $120 but when you calculated this over the two weeks and 
> figured 
> > the number of per day participants minus expenses the income 
> exceeded 
> > $50k. Not bad when you figure this could have been done during a 
> > vacation from work. 
> > 
> > 
> > Preston
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser" 
> > <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have grappled with this for a while -- have asked friends, 
> > traders, 
> > > my wife -- no satisfactory answer yet -- so I'll try this 
forum. 
> > > 
> > > I've attended seminars in the past where the instructor 
impresses 
> > the 
> > > audience with how great life is for him (never encountered a 
> female 
> > > instructor yet), how much money he makes (one guy went on and 
on 
> > > about how much he spends on sushi) and so on. Yet he is 
spending 
> > his 
> > > weekend in a stuffy hotel hall teaching trading basics instead 
of 
> > > spending time with his family or flying his lear jet or eating 
> > sushi. 
> > > Why?
> > > 
> > > I've also come across traders who claim they are very 
successful 
> > BUT 
> > > want to sell their knowledge/tools to others. Same question: 
why?
> > > 
> > > The only answers I've been offered is "I want to help others be 
> > > successful like I am." I don't buy that -- charity is free, not 
> > > $1,999.95. 
> > > 
> > > Please enlighten me.





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