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Re: [Metastockusers] Slide Show-Dave Chamness Optimize



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John,
 
The important thing is: how does a system walk forward.  I have a hundreds of systems that out-perform the "slide-show"... if you run the tests on historical data.  Each optimized variable adds another layer of "improbability" to actual performance.  If we continue to add "whistles and bells" (variables), we continue to improve are testing results.  The more complicated, the better...right?  This is a very big intellectual trap.  
 
I think the Chamness presentation is worth everyone's time.  For a dummy like me, I have trouble understanding everything.  I know one thing: I have influenced him in his research.  When I met him three years ago, Tim Tillson and Dave were flashing me equity curves that looked like straight lines (over-optimized algorythmns).  They always had trouble imitating those results in "real time". 
 
I've learned, they've learned and many others have learned a simple truth:  simple is robust and walks forward....complicated looks wonderful in history and fails in actual trading.  Enjoy, the Chamness presentation.
 
Take care,
 
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: John
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:59 PM
Subject: [Metastockusers] Slide Show


Thanks for sharing the slide show material, Steve. I tested most of
the stuff years ago. After I got your material I rehashed the tests,
just to make sure I didn't miss anything. The numbers are pretty
good  if you don't mind a lot of short duration choppy trades. (My
experience.)

For the newbie's who don't have anything better to use, this will be
benefical, and it's easy to program. And of course the thing that
makes it really good is it's "FREE".

I've seen the exploration material that Roy is presenting in his
newsletter over the next three issues. I use very similar code and
the results have been substantially superior to the results I've seen
from the slide show material. However, the code was written for
equities and not futures, so I don't know what it would do in those
markets, and I can't test it there because I don't have the data.

Anyway, thanks again for the slide show material.









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