| 
 Tom, 
  
One of my big thrills was to be sandwiched between 
Bollinger and Murphy two years ago.  They spoke at Denver Market 
Technicians Association meetings two months apart.  Somehow, they booked me 
in between.  They are both trading gods.  I'm just a trading 
dog. 
  
My younger daughter lives in Flower 
Mound...so, speaking to the group  would 
be double fun.  I have given about fifteen talks to the DTG 
(mostly Mechanical SIG meetings).  The Wednesday, before Turkey Day, at 
3pm, there was 112 people in the room.  I told them I was honored that they 
hadn't started their holidaze yet. 
  
Although, you don't get the belly laughs with the 
ppt ...at least people can spin the indicators in MS.  I do have some 
specific rules that pertain to the data.  In all Emini contracts, I ignore 
all price movement other than: Opening: 9:30 am eastern .... Close 4:15 
eastern.  I know some people can't think out of the box and will refuse to 
adhere to the timeframes that I favor.  I can't make people follow what 
works for me....but, I encourage you to adjust your timeframes.  The 
presentation that I forwarded abides by these time frames.  I always 
execute market orders at the bottom of the hour.  
  
I have gone down the dark road of hanging too many 
whistles and bells on a system.  The smarter a trader is ... the  more 
complicated they want to make an approach.   Fortunately, I'm not very 
bright.  Simple systems, that work well in the past, usually continue to 
work well in the future.  Complicated system usually fail miserably in real 
time. 
  
Take care and thanks, 
  
Steve 
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 2:14 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Re: Xmas is 
  here early 
  
  
  Thanks Steve.   
  Good stuff.  Now you've given me a bunch 
  of ideas to check out over the weekend.... But I also have to figure out how 
  to keep the wife busy with something! 
    
  Maybe some day I'll make the trip from Dallas 
  to Denver and check you guys out. 
  Do you ever travel outside of Denver to 
  present? 
  We have a Tech Analysis Group in Dallas 
  (about 100)  that brings in speakers (expenses paid) once a 
  month.  
  We've had most all the biggies (Bollinger, 
  Nison, Murphy, Raschke, Farley, etc.). 
    You interested? 
    
  Tom 
  
    ----- Original Message -----  
    
    
    Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:48 
    PM 
    Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Re: Xmas 
    is here early 
    
  
    Tom, 
      
    You'd be surprised....I've had folks fly 
    from San Francisco and drive from St. Paul....all end up members.  I 
    haven't been to the DTG site for a long time and I forgot that it's password 
    protected.  I would encourage people to start a ski week or weekend a 
    day early and catch a DTG meeting some Thursday night. 
      
    In lieu of coming to Denver, I'm attaching 
    the October's ppt from the DTG.  I can't turn down a polite 
    request...and, you have shared information and helped a lot of folks.  
    I do hesitate to just toss this out.   Two months from now, 
    someone will be selling the "six pack" as a 3K trading system (totally 
    black-boxed). 
      
    Do you know why most financial software 
    hucksters black box a system?  Not because the big boyz will steal 
    it, overtrade it and therefore, ruin it for everyone...no, because they have 
    swiped other people's stuff and open-code would reveal the source.  So, 
    I encourage people to steal my stuff and improve it.  If you steal 
    and MARKET it, you'll be hearing from me (or my cousin 
    Guido). 
      
    "In the morning you go gunning for the man who 
    stole your water" 
      
    Take care, 
      
    Steve 
    
      ----- Original Message -----  
      
      
      Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:27 
      AM 
      Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Re: 
      Xmas is here early 
      
  
      Steve, this is a catch 22. 
        
      One can not view the Denver Trading Group 
      unless he is a member, and you can not become a member unless you attend a 
      meeting.  Kind of hard when you live hundreds or thousands of miles 
      away.   
        
      Would be nice to see your 
      stuff. 
        
      Tom 
      
        ----- Original Message -----  
        
        
        Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 
        11:18 AM 
        Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Re: 
        Xmas is here early 
        
  
        Jose, 
          
        
        the largest trading group in the 
        world.   
          
        Every month, for the last three years, I am 
        the moderator of the mechanical SIG group (100+, every fourth 
        Thursday).  Each and every month, there is a powerpoint 
        presentation that is archived at the DTG site.  Every month, I 
        present a mechanical system that I trade "live" in real time.  The 
        Mirus E-Mini track record is just a small part of the overall trading 
        program (but, it is a system with absolutely no custom indicators and of 
        course, dozens of people have printed these trades in their 
        accounts).   Also, we advise institutions and brokerage houses 
        around the globe.  You ought to tune into the "live" twenty minute 
        morning update. 
          
        All I'm saying is that nobody has to pay 
        anything for indicators or trading systems.  I give it all away ... 
        for free.  I know that pisses off charlatans and system 
        hustlers...but so be it.  I don't put you in that category 
        Jose.  But, before anyone buys anything, from anybody, they should 
        investigate what is around .... for free. 
          
        BTW, check out all 
        the promotional goodies that Equis sends out to their prospective 
        clients (the video).  Recognize any of the frontmen/women?  
        Damn, one of those guys is sure good looking (and I ain't talking about 
        Oliver or Bob). 
          
        Take 
care, 
          
        Steve 
          
        
          ----- Original Message -----  
          
          
          Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 
          9:28 AM 
          Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: 
          Xmas is here early 
          
 
  Steve,
  "Since these unsolicited, 
          solicitations keep showing up in my mailbox. .."
  You'd 
          better direct my mail to your spam box, because I'm unlikely to 
           stop at this one.  The trader's educational market is rife 
          with scams,  and it is highly unusual to find genuinely useful 
          material, free or  otherwise.
 
  "First of all, I've been 
          using MS since 1988 and have developed very  simple approaches to 
          the market.  NOT TOOLS, simple approaches based  on STANDARD 
          pulldown indicators."
  No tools.  Good for you. But 
          perhaps you are in the wrong usergroup.
 
  "Using the Chande 
          Momentum Oscillator..."
  This could be considered a trading 
          tool, and so could MetaStock.
 
  " http://www.thedailytrade.com/ 
          " "Daily Trade subscribers start each day with our Morning Market 
          Update  and Morning Market Call - indispensable tools that help 
          investors set  their daily, short, intermediate and long term 
          market biases."
  Oh, so you do use TOOLS...  
          <:-I
 
  " http://www.mirusfutures.com/cct_log.asp#041130 
          "
  Looks like a tips sheet to me.  I guess no trading tools 
          needed here.
 
  "Nobody is using MetaStock with the stealth 
          precision that is practiced by the group of traders we have 
          gathered."
  Pfff...  :D
 
  "If you want to 
          experience a "out-of-body" trading experience....join  us in our 
          hotcomm room:  Teach Talk Trade."
  Thanks, but I'd prefer 
          to keep my feet firmly on the ground for now.
 
  jose 
          '-)
 
 
  --- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
          "CedarCreekTrading" <kernish@xx ..> wrote: > 
          Jose, >  > Since these unsolicited, solicitations keep 
          showing up in my > mailbox...I guess this forum is open to 
          "suggestions" on how to > spend your hard earned cash.  
           >  > First of all, I've been using MS since 1988 and have 
          developed very > simple approaches to the market.  NOT 
          TOOLS, simple approaches based > on STANDARD pulldown 
          indicators.  Using the Chande Momentum > Oscillator I have 
          been trading for dozens of people and the ACTUAL > track record 
          is at: >  > http://www.mirusfutures.com/cct_log.asp#041130 > 
           > If you seek a place where the majority of the people use 
          and > exchange information about MetaStock...I would check 
          out: >  > http://www.thedailytrade.com/ > 
           > If you want to experience a "out-of-body" trading 
          experience.... > join us in our hotcomm room:  Teach Talk 
          Trade. >  > Nobody is using MetaStock with the stealth 
          precision that is > practiced by the group of traders we have 
          gathered. >  > Take care, >  > Steve > 
          ----- Original Message -----  > From: Jose  > To: 
          Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Sent: Friday, December 03, 
          2004 7:38 AM > Subject: [Metastockusers] Xmas is here 
          early >   > I've just had the privilege of previewing 
          a pre-release version of > the December issue of Roy's MetaStock 
          Tips & Tricks newsletter, and > if you are a subscriber, you 
          are in for a nice surprise. >  > In my view, this is the 
          best issue yet published, with articles on > the System Tester, 
          user-input Explorations, and more. > A new set of articles on 
          filtering relative strength explorations by > a professional 
          trader puts the icing on the cake. >  > I better not say 
          much more, except that I have no financial > connection to Roy's 
          newsletter.  Apologies to Roy for "jumping the > gun", but 
          it's not often that I get excited by educational material > (of 
          the highest calibre in this case). >  > If you haven't 
          been here yet, now is your chance: > http://www.metastocktips.co.nz/ > 
           >  >   jose 
        '-)
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
    
 
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