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RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Futures / Options comparison



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Futures are not just the cash price plus the 
storage and interest costs.  Futures prices are based on nearby demand and 
future demand, but mostly nearby demand.  If the demand is strong, the 
nearby contract will be at a premium.  If the demand is weak, the nearby 
will be at a discount.  The discount will almost never by more than storage 
plus interest.  On the other side, cash or the nearby month can go to an 
enormous premium to the deferred contract.  
 
The best traders will only trade inverted or 
backwardated market (premium for the nearby) from the long side.  If you 
want to look at an inverted market, look at crude oil on the NYMEX.  People 
who like to write checks trade inverted markets from the short side.  
People who like to collect checks trade them from the long side.
 
Copper is another inverted market. From the 
beginning of December to the beginning of March there was not one sell 
signal.  The rally was 50cents or $12,500 per contract.  
 
If you trade normal markets from the short 
side and inverted market from the long side, you will have better results.  
It is just another filter.
 
Good luck.
 
Chris

  <FONT 
  face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----From: Jay T 
  [mailto:JaysTownsend@xxxxxxx]Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:41 
  AMTo: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: Re: 
  [EquisMetaStock Group] Futures / Options comparison
  <<...Therefore, as far as using Tech Analysis on 
  a futures contract is concerned, just let the price dictate your actions and 
  not the cost of carry...>> 
   
  I disagree with that relative to price comparisons.  Again, 
  theoretically futures are today's cash price plus the carrying 
  charges of storage and interest rates.  It's really that simple.  So 
  if you trade on speculation, you are really speculating on the cash price 
  of the underlying commodity at the point of the expiration of the futures 
  contract, and I agree that playing the price game (fundamental or 
  technical) is the way to go.  However, they are significant opportunities 
  in grains (and others) for example, when the distant expiring contracts 
  are priced at a discount to near-term contracts (when they should have their 
  relative carrying prices added) and sometimes this price discount is very 
  significant.  When you see this, it can give you a signal of some 
  potentially profitable price activity.  One last thing, one who doesn't 
  watch the cash price (on hard goods) as closely as they watch the futures 
  prices can also miss some entry signals.
   
  Jay







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