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Jo - please keep posting in whatever forum or
format suits you. There are many of us who want to hear. Hopefully you will
receive much pleasure knowing that your help and advice has assisted
others. I have found that, in other areas where I have a little
expertise, being in the fortunate position to teach or give or help others
and seeing them progress because of it, is one of life's most rewarding
experiences. Far beter than taking. Thanks for all your past posts and please
keep them coming. Good luck, David.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:05
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Subject: [Metastockusers] JO and
Postings--A message to Friends and Family
I rejoined the group for today in order to clarify a few
things and to thank the members who sent me the nice emails, including the
members who asked me a 100 more questions before I stopped answering
emails. I may have a solution to the problems Im having with
posting and answering the emails. It will save me a lot of time, allow me
to share information, and make it easy for all of you to access it.
First of all, I'm not relinquishing my postings due to perceived
conflicts with the king of SHILL hunting, Jay. After a word to Jay, I
will explain what is going on and how I think I can solve it for those
who have any interest in whatever I find that looks useful..
"Jay, I'm guessing you're a nice guy—maybe a little obsessed with
hunting down what you perceive as evil—but nice. Of course that is a
guess! Sometimes you're even positive and knowledgeable, which I
enjoy taking advantage of. ""Yes, Jay, I do get tired of the SHILL
references, and I also think that all that does is diminish your
credibility. However, it's your credibility to do with as you
wish."By the way, Jay, if you think I'm wrong about the credibility
issue, maybe some of the members of the site would be willing to provide
their comments in a polite way that resembles useful feedback. If
people think I'm a SHILL and Jay has rooted out a source of evil, well
let's hear it. If you think Jay's approach is less than helpful, same
thing. Let's hear it. You still haven't answered my question. Did you ask
for that refund? I admit some of the ranting and vitriolic comments
bother me, not because they're opposed to what I am saying, but because
they might discourage some of the newer users from trying a product that
would help them. When a product has a money back guarantee, each
person should simply try it for themselves. A couple of people have said
recently that ICE is one of their best plug-ins. As I've said so many
times, at least half of stuff I've bought for MS has gone back because it
did not work for meAside from that issue, the reason I'm don't
want to answer email and do postings is because of the time factor. There
are only so many hours in the day. I get a number of emails asking for
help. It's really impossible to help everyone. When I politely decline to
help teach someone how to trade, or build a system, or whatever, I usually
get a nasty email back telling me how selfish I am, or screw me, or
worse. Sure I get tired of that. Real tired of it. I would like to
tell them what I think, but I was raised with
manners.Unfortunately, email anonymity gives people license to say
things that they never would say to you if they were sitting in front of
you. I don't believe in that approach. I don't say things on this
board or in emails I wouldn't tell you if you were talking directly to
me. As far as the postings go, most people would never believe how
much time goes into those. Once a posting is up, this creates more
questions, which is a reasonable expectation, and one I don't object
to. But I get asked the same questions over and over. People don't go
back and search the archives. For example, I've been asked what books
I've read, what's the BEST trading book I've ever read, if a person
could only read three books which three should they read, and it goes
on. I've been very lucky in life, and I've always been willing to
share whatever I had that might help someone else. Doing that is very
disappointing many times because very, very few people listen. They
want advice that's quick, easy, free and that they like. If it meets
all of these criteria, they might, and I mean might, follow the
advice. Well, advice rarely meets such a list; so few people ever do
anything useful with anything you've told them. They want success but
they don't want to do what it takes, including listen.The only
return on investment I get from my time is to see people use something
I've told them for good purposes. That's rare. I would like to
continue to share what I know, read or found without it being such a huge
time drain. I think I can do that by writing various things in a longer
format and posting the writing with the references, formulas and other
stuff in the files section, if the moderator will let me. Then anyone who
wants to read whatever I've contributed can go there and find it. That way
I only have to post whatever once. However, I guess I need to use
disclaimers. While I do read 25 or more trading books a year, I do not now
know, or will ever know, what the best 3 trading books are. I surely do
not know which one is the best one for you to read. I will write a little
review about each book and then you pick.Jay, I didn't write
books: I don't own the publishing company that printed the book; I am not
personal friends with the author; I am not being paid for my book reviews,
and I don't move my lips when I read. Get it!Whenever I post a
file I will post a note saying there's a file and telling you what's in
it. If you feel like reading it, fine. If not fine! However,
I will not answer questions or respond to emails. I would like to, but I
don't have the time. It's amazing how many emails some people send me just
to ask one question. I really hear from some fine people from all over the
world. How lucky do I feel—totally blessed. I wish I had the time to
personally write each one a book telling them whatever I know that might
make their lives better in some small way----but I can't. If you
have questions you can post them, and someone else on the board will
answer them for you. That's support. Please don't tell me "you just
want to pick my brain." Another name for a brain picker is a vulcher. I
used to hear that a dozen times a day when I was speaking around the
country. Let me translate-- I'll buy you a cheap lunch so I can get
1000s of dollars of information from you for free! Wow, aren't I smart.
No, a vulcher is hardly smart. My brain is not here for picking, it's here
to help me make good choices in life, and if you pick it, it might not
work anymore.While I'm whinning--I correspond with Roy a few times a
week. We exchange information. His information is more useful than mine.
(While I know he can speak for himself) As you all know, he's a kind,
generous and humble person. Do any of you have any idea how much mail
he receives in a day? It's got to wear him out sometimes. He gets
huffy email too. Can you imagine? Roy's manners make mine look crude.
No one should ever say an unkind word to him, or slight him in anyway,
because he gives so much and asks so little. Some people thank him, but
many don't. Shame on you, if you're one of those who eat and run.
If any of you think what I'm saying is arrogant—great. You can learn
from arrogant people, especially ones that have been successful.
Arrogant people who have failed can't teach you much except how to be
an arrogant failure. Skip that class! If enough people express
interest in having me share in this manner, this is what I will do. If the
majority of people are not interested I won't waste my time. How
simple can it get? There is one more thing I would like. There are too
many lurkers on the MS sites. I get emails or read an occasional post from
them that's wonderful. Where have you been? What's all this crap about not
having anything to contribute? If you believe what you have told me
that you like what I post and it's valuable---okay help me out. Let
hear from you. There are too many questions by people who want to
know elementary stuff that's in the manual or on the help screen. Read the
book, use the help menu or call technical support. I don't think this site
should be a substitute for Pring's how to use MS CDs. Buy the CDs
and use them. I did. Many really good questions get posted.
A lot of good information gets exchanged. I am working on the
Systems Tester problem. I've read a number of posts saying 7.2 is better.
Okay, how is it better? Saying you get results from 7.2 you trust but not
from 8.01 is BS. Give us the facts, not a vague opinion. I've had problems
with 8.01 also. I have no idea if my problems are the same as yours. I
don't know what yours are. I'm trying to find out what's wrong, and I'm
going to do that. Does it have bugs—no doubt—should those bugs be causing
the kind of problems I'm seeing—no way. I think by next week I'll
have some ideas on what's going on. I've asked some long time MS users and
some former Equis employees if they've seen any problems and they said no.
That was a dead end. But I've got other sources of information I should
have put together by next week. I'll let you know if I find anything. I
hope so. I use the systems tester all the time. I hope I don't have to
start over. Okay, this is long, I know. If the support is in favor of
what I'm suggesting post your support. If you are not in favor that is
good too, share it. You will be doing me a
favor.JOTo
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