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This is the link to adaptick.

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--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Keith McDonald 
<kmcdonald@xxxx> wrote:
> Patrick Tan wrote:
> 
> > Hi ,Just wonder if it works on MS 7.2 or MS 8.0Please let me know.
> >
> >      ----- Original Message -----
> >      From: manohohman
> >      To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >      Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:27 AM
> >      Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] New MS Add-on Reviewed
> >       I just got an early release copy of a new MS add-on
> >      called ICE.
> >
> >      Before reviewing the product, here's a disclaimer for all
> >      the
> >      conspiracy theory compulsives out there. I have no
> >      involvement with
> >      either Equis or Adaptick, the company who produces the
> >      program. I'm
> >      not married to the sister of someone who works for either
> >      one of
> >      them, and nobody there is my cousin. They don't send me
> >      birthday
> >      cards with money inside, and so far neither of company has
> >      even
> >      bought me a hot dog.
> >
> >      The product's name is ICE, which tells you absolutely
> >      nothing about
> >      the program. I will say this: I REALLY LIKE THIS ONE!
> >
> >      I haven't said that often about any add-on but this time,
> >      I really
> >      got my money's worth out of it.
> >
> >      ICE is a specialized system tester program that takes 72
> >      indicators
> >      and divides them into four relatively uncorrelated
> >      categories. The
> >      indicators in each category can be tested on and optimized
> >      for, any
> >      group of stocks in any time frame.
> >
> >      What this product does is save huge amounts of time and
> >      energy when
> >      building and testing trading systems.
> >
> >      All trading systems need some kind of indicators. However,
> >      if you are
> >      going use two, three or four indicators, each indicator
> >      should be
> >      measuring something different. For example, if you like
> >      RSI and
> >      Stochastics, fine. Just don't put both of them in your
> >      system because
> >      you are essentially measuring the same thing with both
> >      indicators.
> >
> >      Both are momentum indicators. RSI measures closing price
> >      relative to
> >      the previous close, and Stoch measures closing price
> >      relative to the
> >      range. This might sound different, but they're too closely
> >      correlated
> >      to be very effective when used together.
> >
> >      In the ICE program both of these are considered velocity
> >      indicators.
> >
> >      The point of having different indicators is to increase
> >      the
> >      probability of a good trade by increasing the amount of
> >      NEW
> >      information provided by each indicator. If the indicators
> >      are too
> >      similar—measuring essentially the same thing—the
> >      combination only
> >      marginally increases the probability of making a better
> >      trade. If the
> >      indicators are sufficiently different, then the new
> >      information makes
> >      a larger and more important contribution to the increase
> >      in
> >      probability of a good entry or exit point.
> >
> >      However, that's not the end of the story. Even if you have
> >      indicators
> >      that have very little colinearity (okay, take deep
> >      breathes—it means
> >      they're measuring the same things—i.e. Points on a
> >      straight line.)
> >      there is still the issue of how well any given indicator
> >      works on a
> >      group of stocks.
> >
> >      In a good trading system all the indicators give good
> >      signals on the
> >      stocks being traded, and they are distinct enough to
> >      provide sound
> >      entries and exits when used together.
> >
> >      (I need to pause for a moment to make a small point
> >      outside of ICE.
> >      With indicators, more is not merrier. The best trading
> >      systems keep
> >      it simple. As you add more and more indicators to a
> >      system, the law
> >      of diminishing returns sets in and JO's law of paralysis
> >      takes over.
> >      If you use more then 3 or 4 indicators, it gets
> >      progressively harder
> >      to make decisions based on what you're seeing. Half the
> >      time you
> >      won't even know what you're seeing, much less what to do
> >      about it. So
> >      basically---KEEP IT SIMPLE!!!!)
> >
> >      After installation, ICE is fully integrated with the
> >      systems tester.
> >      You pick a couple of indicators in a category, test the
> >      indicators on
> >      your stocks to see which ones perform the best, and then
> >      optimize
> >      them. The optimizations are also fully integrated, so you
> >      don't have
> >      to do any programming at all.
> >
> >      Once you have the optimized indicators, you set them up on
> >      chart with
> >      a stock and play around a bit with the settings. This how
> >      I like to
> >      customize. My eyeball tells me things that a mechanical
> >      optimization
> >      program can't even deal with. Once that's complete, you
> >      move to the
> >      next indicator in the next category.
> >
> >      After awhile you will have three or four indicators, one
> >      from each
> >      category,  that fit you, your stocks and your system. They
> >      will have
> >      little colinearity, they will have excellent probability
> >      of
> >      generating good entry and exit points and you will be well
> >      on your
> >      way to having a really good trading system.
> >
> >      No, the program doesn't test chaos theory, Elliot cycles,
> >      fractals,
> >      or hypocycloids of four cusps. This is a good thing
> >      because it has
> >      been proven over and over, the best systems use the simple
> >      time
> >      tested indicators--and that's it. Two moving averages and
> >      some common
> >      sense will out perform the stuff I just mentioned. Okay,
> >      don't email
> >      me about how good Elliot cycles are and how much you love
> >      them, etc,
> >      etc. Elliot was stranger than Elvis, and Elvis didn't know
> >      anything
> >      about trading stocks. That's all I need to know about
> >      Elliot and
> >      Gann.
> >
> >      This program won't help you write rap music, or find
> >      exotic patterns
> >      in the futures markets, but it will save you tons of time
> >      and money
> >      trying to come with a system that works.
> >
> >      Here's a real life example—mine. I have written and
> >      developed two
> >      really, really good systems. (No, I won't give them to
> >      you. No, I
> >      won't sell them to you. Don't bother!) But like all
> >      Americans (and
> >      the Chinese too), I'm never happy with what I have, so I
> >      wanted a
> >      third one that did something that my first two didn't. My
> >      original
> >      systems gave very accurate entry and exits signals but
> >      they didn't
> >      tell when I should be piling more money into what looked
> >      like a good
> >      trend. While it's not possible to tell how long a trend
> >      will last, it
> >      is definitely possible to tell when a particular trend is
> >      stronger or
> >      weaker. In other words, when should I risk more or risk
> >      less.
> >
> >      I started working on the system a couple of weeks ago, and
> >      went about
> >      solving the problem of when to increase my trade risk
> >      first. After
> >      that was solved, the indicators that I added initially to
> >      the system
> >      seemed to perform only so, so. After getting ICE, I read
> >      the manual
> >      (which is still a work in progress, but since none of you
> >      seem to
> >      read manuals anyway that shouldn't be a problem), sat down
> >      at the
> >      computer and in less than two hours finished the system.
> >      I've set it
> >      up, traded with it, and I'm pleased to say---I LOVE THIS
> >      SYSTEM, I
> >      REALLY LOVE THIS SYSTEM. Next week I'm going to buy it a
> >      three stone
> >      diamond ring, I love it so much. Now, if it could only
> >      tell me it
> >      loved me back!
> >
> >      If I had had this product a few years ago, it would have
> >      saved me
> >      hundreds of hours in system development and testing time.
> >      That was
> >      such grinding work, I had days when I thought I saw
> >      Elvis—sorry I
> >      mean Gann.
> >
> >      You know the only thing that could be better than this is
> >      if I could
> >      tell you it was FREE, FREE, FREE! That is, after all, your
> >      favorite
> >      word. Alias, it's not. BUT ALMOST.
> >
> >      If you buy it before the official release date, it's only
> >      $99 instead
> >      of $299. Well, hold my hand, I can't believe it. It's
> >      true, and I
> >      will tell you I would have paid many times that amount for
> >      all the
> >      time and energy it would have saved me when I first
> >      started
> >      developing my own systems.
> >
> >      You can read about it at www.adpatick.com.
> >
> >      I guess before I finish I need to confess. No I'm not John
> >      Slauson,
> >      the guy who wrote ICE. Yeah, I know JO is really similar
> >      to JS—at
> >      least to some of you Sherlock Holmes want-ta-be's. Given
> >      the millions
> >      of possible name combinations JO and JS aren't even
> >      remotely
> >      related.
> >
> >      My confession is about cycles. I do rely on some cycle
> >      information.
> >      You can find it at
> >      http://www.fourpillars.net/finance/predic.html.
> >      This is the most accurate cycle information I've ever
> >      seen. If you
> >      don't believe me, use it for awhile. You'll see.  I've
> >      named my dog
> >      Yang.
> >
> >      JO
> >
> >      PS Some of you know I recommend John Clayburg's book Four
> >      Steps to
> >      Trading Success. John has developed a very sophisticated,
> >      effective,
> >      yet easy to use set of indicators based on the RSI, Stoch
> >      and %R. It
> >      would seem that these have too much colinearity to be
> >      effective. Doc
> >      Clayburg has solved that problem through the use of time
> >      frames. Time
> >      frame combinations can over come colinearity problems, but
> >      it's too
> >      sophisticated for most system developers to deal with so I
> >      won't go
> >      there, except to say Clayburg's system does not suffer
> >      from the
> >      problems I have described above.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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