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Then I guess your reasoning is that everyone is dishonest and crooks.
I was just trying to clarify the point made by others in terms of
selling their copies...in order to end that topic so that we can
concentrate on the use of Metastock for our trading.
If your response was valid eBay would not exist! But like you say, I
too would like the topics to deal with all of us helping each other
in matters of trading using the Metastock program. On the other hand,
this board is about Equis-Metastock...no matter what the discussion
is about, so it wouldnt be fair not to allow those Metastock users
from wanting to know the legal ramifications of owning or selling
their copies of Metastock. I just say that we shouldnt dwell on any
topic too long, but to post answers asap, then we can move on to
other topics without having to re-hash already discussed topics.
Also, as others have stressed, to help things move along at a nice
pace....everyone should read the manual before posting any questions,
since alot of the answers are right there in print.
--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "AA" <arnaouto@xxxx> wrote:
> I really do not understand the purpose of this discussion
here.Anybody can
> buy a copy of Metastock for less than 20 dollars.The copies,along
with
> copies of other programms are sold everywhere.....
> As for the manual,it is also available anywhere........My opinion
though is
> that nobody needs it.The online help is more than adequate.
>
> AA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gann_144" <no_reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] You can't sell your MetaStock
7.2 !!!!
>
>
> > Its very simple with what you can do with your Metastock:
> >
> > You do NOT own the software.
> > You are only licensed to use it.
> > Therefore Equis can put any restrictions that they want on
Metastock
> > and they actually own the physical CD itself...just like the
credit
> > card companies own the actual card you use!
> >
> > Before you sell any version of your sotware its best you consult
> > Equis and get it in writing. They legally have us by the neck,
since
> > when we install Metastock we agreed to their terms. Unless the law
> > changes and forces changes to that "I Agree" feature that is
required
> > before installing any software, there really is nothing we can
object
> > to. Unless, anyone has the resources and time to challenge it in
> > court thru a class-action suit.
> >
> >
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, marketsniper
<no_reply@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > Equis position is that I can sell the 7.03 but not the 7.2
> > upgrade.
> > > I am going to seek some legal advice to get a legal
interpretation
> > > of the agreements. I'll post what I find for those that care.
> > >
> > > Sean
> > >
> > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Peter Kuskopf"
> > > <pkuskopf@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > Curly one. I don't know the answer. Does Equis have a
position?
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: marketsniper
> > > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 5:01 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] You can't sell your
> > > MetaStock 7.2 !!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Peter:
> > > >
> > > > I understand what you are saying. My difficulty with Equis
in
> > > this
> > > > matter is that my 7.2 was an upgrade to my 7.03. My 7.03
> > > license
> > > > DOES allow a transfer of license. Additionally, the 7.02
> > > license
> > > > requires that the transfer include ALL upgrades.
> > > >
> > > > So, you can see my problem. 7.03 is transferrable and
requires
> > > that
> > > > all upgrades be included. 7.2 is not transferable. What is
> > one
> > > to
> > > > do? No matter what, I am breaking the agreement. When I
sell
> > my
> > > > 7.03, if I include the 7.2, I'll be in agreement with the
7.03
> > > > agreement but not the 7.2. If I sell the 7.03 without the
7.2,
> > > I am
> > > > not in agreement with the 7.03 but only the 7.2.
> > > >
> > > > Which agreement is binding? The first or the second?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for letting me vent,
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> > > >
> > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Peter Kuskopf"
> > > > <pkuskopf@xxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Metastock is not unusual in the shrink-wrap marketplace.
Many
> > > > companies do not allow for transfer of a licence.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the larger non-shrinkwrap market, it is usual for a
> > licence
> > > > transfer fee to be payable. Sometime the transfer fee can be
> > > > extortionate.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not rationalising these pactices, but they are a fact
of
> > > life.
> > > > Equis is not unusual in this respect.
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter K
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: marketsniper
> > > > > To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:37 AM
> > > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] You can't sell your
> > > MetaStock
> > > > 7.2 !!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you know, according to Equis Software License
> > Agreement,
> > > you
> > > > are
> > > > > not allowed to sell your 7.2 + MetaStock? According to
the
> > > > > Agreement, "You may not: (i) modify or create derivative
> > > works
> > > > based
> > > > > on the Software or Documentation; (ii) lease, rent,
> > > transfer,
> > > > > sublicense, or distribute the Software or the
> > > Documentation;..."
> > > > > Equis considers this to include selling your MetaStock
to
> > > > someone
> > > > > else (transfer of license).
> > > > >
> > > > > I found out the hard way when I attempted to sell my
> > > original
> > > > > metastock with all of its original manuals on eBay.
Equis,
> > > > through
> > > > > VeRO, got my ad removed. I have been in numerous e-mails
> > > with
> > > > > Intellectual Property at Equis and they will not allow
7.2
> > > to be
> > > > > sold. So, after you buy the license (according to the
> > > Agreement,
> > > > > you are sold a license, not the software... you never
own
> > > the
> > > > > software...), you are stuck with it, never able to
recoup
> > > any of
> > > > > your money. I wish I had read the complete Agreement
prior
> > > to
> > > > > purchasing MetaStock.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone out there has any ideas or thought on this, I
> > > would be
> > > > > interested in hearing them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sean
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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