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[Metastockusers] Re: SPY It's no joke Joe



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I trade using a very similar expert system every day of the week. I 
have tuned up my system for the type of things I trade, and I've 
refined the formulas. For example, I can add code that uses a variety 
of range spreads to determine the probablity of the current signal 
being profitable. 

The only problem with Peak and Trough bars on intraday charts is the 
lag they can create. It's just part of the slippage before you can 
get into and out of trades. When I trade 30 and 60 minute screens, I 
have a 5 and 15 minute chart open at the same time with set of 
indicators I've developed from Clayburg's book. When I get a buy on 
those indicators, it's ahead of the expert siganl. If I like what I 
see I buy before the expert signal and watch for confirmation from 
the expert. If I don't like the indicators, I ignore the signal. 

The moving averages also tell you a lot about what's going on. 
Experienced traders can beat most cycle traders just by using two 
moving averages. Simple is the best, when you can get it.

You will also notice that the system does not depend solely on the 
Peak and Trough bars. I don't like the zigzag and I don't use it. Too 
many people think the zigzag is projecting future prices.

Instead of critiqing the "so called" expert system, write one of your 
own that's more efficient and produces better results. That will 
prove your point. 

I have an expert system for trading mutual funds that was written 
with Peak and Trough bar functions that frankly is best Mutual Fund 
trading system I've ever seen, and I've looked at all of them I can 
find. I like trading mutual funds the best. But I make more money 
positon and day trading when the market is non-trending. I really 
enjoy the trending phases because the mutual funds are great.

I guess that's why I like cyclical bear markets. 

You're right though, no system is truly an expert. No matter what you 
trade with, judgement, intuition, experience and management of the 
trades is what makes you money. They don't sell that on infomecials 
at night.

JO









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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dominick [mailto:Dom2000@x...]
> Sent:	Sun 7/13/2003 1:22 PM
> To:	Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc:	
> Subject:	[Metastockusers] SPY
> 
> Here is a daily chart of SPY using JO's "Free Expert" in MS version 
7.2 
> EOD .  Could some one post their  30 minute result.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Dominick


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