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I have been reading about Point and Figure Charting with the hope of using it in addition to Candlestick Charting.
I attended on of Tom Dorsey's workshops.
Why do you like this system so much?
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To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:Metastockusers-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx------------------------------------------------------------------------There are 16 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest:1. Re: Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODFrom: "Nick Channon" 2. Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODFrom: "anilkeshavji" 3. Learning Forex tradingFrom: "fromstar2001" 4. Re: Learning Forex tradingFrom: "Preston Umrysh" 5. Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODFrom: "hcour" 6. Re: Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODFrom: -= Chris ß =- 7. Re: Re: Stock PotentialFrom: "Roy Larsen" 8. Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODFrom: "anilkeshavji" 9. Re: Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODFrom: -= Chris ß =- 10. Correlation Exploration?From: "hcour" 11. Re: Correlation Exploration?From: -= Chris ß =- 12. Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODFrom: "anilkeshavji" 13. Metastock Ver 8.0 System TesterFrom: "-= DaBiz =-" 14. Re: Metastock Ver 8.0 System TesterFrom: Lars Widlund 15. Re: Correlation Exploration?From: "hcour" 16. Re: parabolic involutesFrom: Dan C ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 1Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:43:00 +0800From: "Nick Channon" Subject: Re: Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODHi Anil,I was interested in your comments (below) about P&F charting and theIndexia/Technical Analyst software - so I'm running the free trial on it.However, so far I cannot see much difference in the charts in comparison toMetastock, except for as you say the vertical/horizontal counts. It does notseem to include pattern recognition on P&F charts.Could you kindly tell me some of the differences? I am genuinely interested,since I want to learn more about P&F charting in general.Many thanks,Nick----- Original Message -----From: "anilkeshavji" To: Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 10:20 AMSubject: [Metastockusers] Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EOD> Ong Hock Choon>> It is fist time on this site anyone has mentione point & figure> charting for as long as i have followed it...I use this charting> most of the time...and use everything else sparingly and to confirm> etc...>> if you can master p & f then that is the only thing you need to> trade...nothing comes near it...>> although i have not tested thoroughly...I compared the P & F charts> with another programme i use - Indexia and Technical Analyst....both> written by a CMT in London called jeremy Du Plessis....he is an> authority on point & figure charting techniques...and i found that> there was an error in patterns...indexia and technical analyst are> probably only the accurate charting for p &f that is avilable...box> setting of 1 is also possible with that>> Unfortunately p& f in metastock is just a gimmick....they could have> included vertical and horizontal counts and better trendline> facility....pattern recognition etc...like candle charts>> i wonder if anyone on this site uses p & f charting?????..>> it would be useful to know if anyone has solved the vertical and> horizontal count feature in metastock???>> regards>> anil>>>> --- In Metastockusers@xxxx, Ong Hock Choon wrote:> > Hi,> >> > I had discovered these bugs in Metastock:> >> > 1. P&F chart cannot display when price is lower than $1. This> problem> > does not happen when charting price above $1. After much exchange> of> > email with their tech support, Equis had acknowledged this is a> bug in> > the software.> >> > 2. Custom Tool Bar display problem. When custom tool bar consist> of all> > template icons and when you first start up Metastock without> opening any> > chart, it will not only shrink itself but all other tool bar on> the same> > vertical or horizontal edge to the extend that it cannot be click.> > Display will become proper once you open a chart, and will stay in> this> > proper manner even after the chart is closed.> >> > Equis tech support claims that this is the way Metastock is> designed to> > work. (ya, great consistency and great improvement from previous> > version)> >> > What make me more up set is: I had reported these bugs and at> first the> > tech support claimed that they have "tested both issues I reported> and> > it worked perfectly in their MetaStock 8.0". Instead of admitting> they> > ask me to do many other things. Only after much exchange and> sending> > them many screen shots, then they admit that the P&F problem is a> bug,> > and claim that the custom tool bar is the way Metastock is design> to> > work.> >> > I wonder anyone has similar experience in dealing with Equis tech> > support?> > --> >> > Regards.> >> > Ong Hock Choon> > hcong168@xxxx>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> Metastockusers-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>>________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 2Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 16:21:27 -0000From: "anilkeshavji" Subject: Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODHi NickIt is always good to hear from someone who is interested in P & F....as many of my friends ONLY use this most of the time and with uncanny accuracy...I checked couple of securities using 1 box reversal count...now this is where the difference between boys and men will be obvious...the difference was obvious with metastock and TA...In P & F charts the trendlines are drawn at 45 degrees and it is very specific the way it is drawn...that is missing in metastock...vertical and horizontal counts are available in TA but not in metastock....these counts are the most basic requirement of P & F as that is all what the charting is about i.e the projectile value...otherwise what do you do with P & F charts...???For serious user of P & F metastock is not the right tool...however one thing i have been lookng at is to see if there is a way to programme pattern recognition in metastock P & F charts....like double top reversal, double top continuation...etc etc as listed in Kermit Zeig's and Carroll D Aby Jr's books...Have not been too sucessful so far...TA's P & F will be the most accurate charts that will be avilable on any programme as Jeremy is an authority on the subject and a perfectionist...So TA is a must for P & F...metastock for possible pattern recognition programming if possible.However once masterered you can scan through 100 charts in few mins as only think you are looking for is the patterns....times occuring and times profitable...i.e pattern B7 in Kermit Zeig's book occurs 3.9% of times and is 92% of times profitable...!!!Hope this answers the quesries...although i consider myself as 'moron' when it comes to P & F as it is a vast subject...regardsanil--- In Metastockusers@xxxx, "Nick Channon" wrote:> Hi Anil,> > I was interested in your comments (below) about P&F charting and the> Indexia/Technical Analyst software - so I'm running the free trial on it.> However, so far I cannot see much difference in the charts in comparison to> Metastock, except for as you say the vertical/horizontal counts. It does not> seem to include pattern recognition on P&F charts.> > Could you kindly tell me some of the differences? I am genuinely interested,> since I want to learn more about P&F charting in general.> > Many thanks,> Nick> > > ----- Original Message -----> From: "anilkeshavji" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 10:20 AM> Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EOD> > > > Ong Hock Choon> >> > It is fist time on this site anyone has mentione point & figure> > charting for as long as i have followed it...I use this charting> > most of the time...and use everything else sparingly and to confirm> > etc...> >> > if you can master p & f then that is the only thing you need to> > trade...nothing comes near it...> >> > although i have not tested thoroughly...I compared the P & F charts> > with another programme i use - Indexia and Technical Analyst....both> > written by a CMT in London called jeremy Du Plessis....he is an> > authority on point & figure charting techniques...and i found that> > there was an error in patterns...indexia and technical analyst are> > probably only the accurate charting for p &f that is avilable...box> > setting of 1 is also possible with that> >> > Unfortunately p& f in metastock is just a gimmick....they could have> > included vertical and horizontal counts and better trendline> > facility....pattern recognition etc...like candle charts> >> > i wonder if anyone on this site uses p & f charting?????..> >> > it would be useful to know if anyone has solved the vertical and> > horizontal count feature in metastock???> >> > regards> >> > anil> >> >> >> > --- In Metastockusers@xxxx, Ong Hock Choon wrote:> > > Hi,> > >> > > I had discovered these bugs in Metastock:> > >> > > 1. P&F chart cannot display when price is lower than $1. This> > problem> > > does not happen when charting price above $1. After much exchange> > of> > > email with their tech support, Equis had acknowledged this is a> > bug in> > > the software.> > >> > > 2. Custom Tool Bar display problem. When custom tool bar consist> > of all> > > template icons and when you first start up Metastock without> > opening any> > > chart, it will not only shrink itself but all other tool bar on> > the same> > > vertical or horizontal edge to the extend that it cannot be click.> > > Display will become proper once you open a chart, and will stay in> > this> > > proper manner even after the chart is closed.> > >> > > Equis tech support claims that this is the way Metastock is> > designed to> > > work. (ya, great consistency and great improvement from previous> > > version)> > >> > > What make me more up set is: I had reported these bugs and at> > first the> > > tech support claimed that they have "tested both issues I reported> > and> > > it worked perfectly in their MetaStock 8.0". Instead of admitting> > they> > > ask me to do many other things. Only after much exchange and> > sending> > > them many screen shots, then they admit that the P&F problem is a> > bug,> > > and claim that the custom tool bar is the way Metastock is design> > to> > > work.> > >> > > I wonder anyone has similar experience in dealing with Equis tech> > > support?> > > --> > >> > > Regards.> > >> > > Ong Hock Choon> > > hcong168@xxxx> >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> > Metastockusers-unsubscribe@xxxx> >> >> >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> >> >________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 3Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:32:41 -0000From: "fromstar2001" Subject: Learning Forex tradingHi, i am trying to explore forex systems on the Internet in order to gain preliminary experience before venturing into real-life trading. So far i have come up with the following results that i present here for your consideration:tradestation.com--an interesting design, but i do not see how i can open an account there without being charged about 100$ a month.gaincapital.com--not a bad site,but i would like to see more of graphic analysis there.oanda-one of my favorites--combines graphic analysis and running quotes+you can open a demo account there.dukascopy.com--my champion. The system is free for use and as far as i understand does not intend to create paid accounts and has educating users as its purpose. They apply quantum physics methods in technical analysis and claim that they found the way to outsmart the system. Their trading system is simple, transparent and at the same time very powerful. What i liked best about them is their interactive trading examples that teach people forex fundamentals.Has anyone tried these systems out? Do you have any other systems on your mind?________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 4Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:54:09 -0000From: "Preston Umrysh" Subject: Re: Learning Forex tradinghttp://fxgame.oanda.com/--- In Metastockusers@xxxx, "fromstar2001" wrote:> Hi, i am trying to explore forex systems on the Internet in order to > gain preliminary experience before venturing into real-life trading. > So far i have come up with the following results that i present here > for your consideration:> tradestation.com--an interesting design, but i do not see how i can > open an account there without being charged about 100$ a month.> gaincapital.com--not a bad site,but i would like to see more of > graphic analysis there.> oanda-one of my favorites--combines graphic analysis and running > quotes+you can open a demo account there.> dukascopy.com--my champion. The system is free for use and as far as > i understand does not intend to create paid accounts and has > educating users as its purpose. They apply quantum physics methods in > technical analysis and claim that they found the way to outsmart the > system. Their trading system is simple, transparent and at the same > time very powerful. What i liked best about them is their > interactive trading examples that teach people forex fundamentals.> Has anyone tried these systems out? Do you have any other systems on > your mind?________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 5Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 19:21:42 -0000From: "hcour" Subject: Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODI'm also very interested in PnF charting as I am big on Wyckoff and he used them extensively - horizontal counts and one box reversals. I'm planning to purchase an add-on program for MS called XLChartPro which creates PnF charts using Excel and MS data. Looks pretty impressive to me and very reasonably priced. You might want to check it out:http://www.xlchartpro.iinet.net.au/index.htmlHarold________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 6Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:43:34 -0500From: -= Chris ß =- Subject: Re: Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODThe PnF, "par excellence":http://www.archeranalysis.com/beb/index.htmlThe PnF, true to form:http://www.ez-pnf.com/-= Chris ß =-Using FastTrack/FastRUBE/FastTools/Trade/EZ-PnF/PSM/AmibrokerFastBreakPro/SpeedResearch/AgentOn Thu, 21 Nov 2002 19:21:42 -0000, you wrote:> I'm also very interested in PnF charting.... > > http://www.xlchartpro.iinet.net.au/index.html________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 7Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:00:23 +1300From: "Roy Larsen" Subject: Re: Re: Stock PotentialAnil> So what are the significant differences between eod and real > time...??? if there were five points that you would rate as > significant difference what would they be...????> > TIAI don't use MS Pro so I'm not able to answer this question accurately.Roy________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 8Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:33:03 -0000From: "anilkeshavji" Subject: Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODGood sites chaps....also see the following site and product by Dave Baker in UK...Very good package but is written in VB I think...http://www.pfscan.com/http://www.traders.com/Reprints/PDF_reprints/PF_PFSCAN.pdfregardsanil--- In Metastockusers@xxxx, -= Chris ß =- wrote:> The PnF, "par excellence":> > http://www.archeranalysis.com/beb/index.html> > The PnF, true to form:> > http://www.ez-pnf.com/> > -= Chris ß =-> Using FastTrack/FastRUBE/FastTools/Trade/EZ-PnF/PSM/Amibroker> FastBreakPro/SpeedResearch/Agent> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 19:21:42 -0000, you wrote:> > > I'm also very interested in PnF charting.... > > > > http://www.xlchartpro.iinet.net.au/index.html________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 9Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:00:04 -0500From: -= Chris ß =- Subject: Re: Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODThanks for the addition Anil. Added to my bookmarks.On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:33:03 -0000, you wrote:> Good sites chaps....also see the following site and product by Dave > Baker in UK...> > http://www.pfscan.com/________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 10Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:12:32 -0000From: "hcour" Subject: Correlation Exploration?I would like to find stocks that have high correlations to their respective indices. For instance stocks that have a .80 or better correlation to the .IXIC (Nasdaq).Is this possible and if so, could one of you MS geniuses show me how to do it?Thanks,Harold________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 11Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:39:05 -0500From: -= Chris ß =- Subject: Re: Correlation Exploration?Harold,FastTrack will do that very quickly. As a matter of fact, that is oneof it's main feature.see: www.fasttrack.net-= Chris ß =-Using FastTrack/FastRUBE/FastTools/Trade/EZPnF/PSM/AmiBrokerFastBreakPro/SpeedResearch/Agent(Moved from MSP to AmiB, and never looked back!)On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:12:32 -0000, you wrote:> I would like to find stocks that have high correlations to their > respective indices. For instance stocks that have a .80 or better > correlation to the .IXIC (Nasdaq).________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 12Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:25:45 -0000From: "anilkeshavji" Subject: Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EODNickI forgot to mention one point...if you are using trial run of Updata TA then when in P & F chart, just type 'V' for vertical count...that is the price objectibe...i'e 'projectile value'...you must though do a vertical count at specific point...if you test it on any security and do a test you will be surprised how the price objective in vertical count is most of the times reasonably accurate...although not always...Also type 'H' for horizontal count...and see the results....In settings use high/low value and do the counts with different reversal sertings...regardsanil--- In Metastockusers@xxxx, "anilkeshavji" wrote:> Hi Nick> > It is always good to hear from someone who is interested in P & > F....as many of my friends ONLY use this most of the time and with > uncanny accuracy...> > I checked couple of securities using 1 box reversal count...now this > is where the difference between boys and men will be obvious...the > difference was obvious with metastock and TA...> > In P & F charts the trendlines are drawn at 45 degrees and it is > very specific the way it is drawn...that is missing in metastock...> > vertical and horizontal counts are available in TA but not in > metastock....these counts are the most basic requirement of P & F as > that is all what the charting is about i.e the projectile > value...otherwise what do you do with P & F charts...???> > For serious user of P & F metastock is not the right tool...however > one thing i have been lookng at is to see if there is a way to > programme pattern recognition in metastock P & F charts....like > double top reversal, double top continuation...etc etc as listed in > Kermit Zeig's and Carroll D Aby Jr's books...Have not been too > sucessful so far...> > TA's P & F will be the most accurate charts that will be avilable on > any programme as Jeremy is an authority on the subject and a > perfectionist...So TA is a must for P & F...metastock for possible > pattern recognition programming if possible.> > However once masterered you can scan through 100 charts in few mins > as only think you are looking for is the patterns....times occuring > and times profitable...i.e pattern B7 in Kermit Zeig's book occurs > 3.9% of times and is 92% of times profitable...!!!> > Hope this answers the quesries...although i consider myself > as 'moron' when it comes to P & F as it is a vast subject...> > regards> > anil> --- In Metastockusers@xxxx, "Nick Channon" wrote:> > Hi Anil,> > > > I was interested in your comments (below) about P&F charting and > the> > Indexia/Technical Analyst software - so I'm running the free trial > on it.> > However, so far I cannot see much difference in the charts in > comparison to> > Metastock, except for as you say the vertical/horizontal counts. > It does not> > seem to include pattern recognition on P&F charts.> > > > Could you kindly tell me some of the differences? I am genuinely > interested,> > since I want to learn more about P&F charting in general.> > > > Many thanks,> > Nick> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "anilkeshavji" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 10:20 AM> > Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Bugs in Metastock Ver 8.0 EOD> > > > > > > Ong Hock Choon> > >> > > It is fist time on this site anyone has mentione point & figure> > > charting for as long as i have followed it...I use this charting> > > most of the time...and use everything else sparingly and to > confirm> > > etc...> > >> > > if you can master p & f then that is the only thing you need to> > > trade...nothing comes near it...> > >> > > although i have not tested thoroughly...I compared the P & F > charts> > > with another programme i use - Indexia and Technical > Analyst....both> > > written by a CMT in London called jeremy Du Plessis....he is an> > > authority on point & figure charting techniques...and i found > that> > > there was an error in patterns...indexia and technical analyst > are> > > probably only the accurate charting for p &f that is > avilable...box> > > setting of 1 is also possible with that> > >> > > Unfortunately p& f in metastock is just a gimmick....they could > have> > > included vertical and horizontal counts and better trendline> > > facility....pattern recognition etc...like candle charts> > >> > > i wonder if anyone on this site uses p & f charting?????..> > >> > > it would be useful to know if anyone has solved the vertical and> > > horizontal count feature in metastock???> > >> > > regards> > >> > > anil> > >> > >> > >> > > --- In Metastockusers@xxxx, Ong Hock Choon wrote:> > > > Hi,> > > >> > > > I had discovered these bugs in Metastock:> > > >> > > > 1. P&F chart cannot display when price is lower than $1. This> > > problem> > > > does not happen when charting price above $1. After much > exchange> > > of> > > > email with their tech support, Equis had acknowledged this is a> > > bug in> > > > the software.> > > >> > > > 2. Custom Tool Bar display problem. When custom tool bar > consist> > > of all> > > > template icons and when you first start up Metastock without> > > opening any> > > > chart, it will not only shrink itself but all other tool bar on> > > the same> > > > vertical or horizontal edge to the extend that it cannot be > click.> > > > Display will become proper once you open a chart, and will > stay in> > > this> > > > proper manner even after the chart is closed.> > > >> > > > Equis tech support claims that this is the way Metastock is> > > designed to> > > > work. (ya, great consistency and great improvement from > previous> > > > version)> > > >> > > > What make me more up set is: I had reported these bugs and at> > > first the> > > > tech support claimed that they have "tested both issues I > reported> > > and> > > > it worked perfectly in their MetaStock 8.0". Instead of > admitting> > > they> > > > ask me to do many other things. Only after much exchange and> > > sending> > > > them many screen shots, then they admit that the P&F problem > is a> > > bug,> > > > and claim that the custom tool bar is the way Metastock is > design> > > to> > > > work.> > > >> > > > I wonder anyone has similar experience in dealing with Equis > tech> > > > support?> > > > --> > > >> > > > Regards.> > > >> > > > Ong Hock Choon> > > > hcong168@xxxx> > >> > >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> > > Metastockusers-unsubscribe@xxxx> > >> > >> > >> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> > >> > >________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 13Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:14:25 -0000From: "-= DaBiz =-" Subject: Metastock Ver 8.0 System TesterWell i have a Tick Database and i want to use system tester and Expertson 5, 10, 15, 30, 60 ... Minutes but on version 8 i can´t choose this...Any hint?Thanks________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 14Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:22:47 +0100From: Lars Widlund Subject: Re: Metastock Ver 8.0 System TesterI thought that was possible in version 8. I will ask a person here i Sweden how sells Metastock 8. Perhaps he now how to do this.LarsAt 11:14 2002-11-22 +0000, you wrote:>Well i have a Tick Database and i want to use system tester and Experts>on 5, 10, 15, 30, 60 ... Minutes but on version 8 i can´t choose this...>Any hint?>Thanks>>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:>Metastockusers-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the >Yahoo! Terms of Service.[This message contained attachments]________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 15Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:04:21 -0000From: "hcour" Subject: Re: Correlation Exploration?Thanks Chris, I'm sure FT is great. But I would really have no need for it other than that and I'm pretty sure this can be done in MS. I just don't know how. The formula is as follows:Correl(DataArray, DataArray, Periods, Shift)Now I suppose I would put this in colA with the proper data and then in the Filter put "cola > .80". But I don't know how to put in the "proper data" or how to make it reference the index.Again, any help appreciated!Harold--- In Metastockusers@xxxx, -= Chris ß =- wrote:> Harold,> > FastTrack will do that very quickly. As a matter of fact, that is one> of it's main feature.> > see: www.fasttrack.net> > -= Chris ß =-> Using FastTrack/FastRUBE/FastTools/Trade/EZPnF/PSM/AmiBroker> FastBreakPro/SpeedResearch/Agent> (Moved from MSP to AmiB, and never looked back!)> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 22:12:32 -0000, you wrote:> > > I would like to find stocks that have high correlations to their > > respective indices. For instance stocks that have a .80 or better > > correlation to the .IXIC (Nasdaq).________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 16Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 05:09:44 -0800From: Dan C Subject: Re: parabolic involutesFrom Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913)Involute \In"vo*lute\, Involuted \In"vo*lu`ted\, a. [L. involutus,p. p. of involvere. See {Involve}.] 1. (Bot.) Rolled inward from theedges;-- said of leaves in vernation, or of the petals of flowers in[ae]stivation. --Gray. 2. (Zo["o]l.) (a) Turned inward at the margin, as the exterior lipof the Cyprea. (b) Rolled inward spirally. From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913)Involute \In"vo*lute\, n. (Geom.) A curve traced by the end of astring wound upon another curve, or unwound from it; -- called also{evolvent}. 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