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RE: [Metastockusers] General Remarks On MS System Tester



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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Kevin,
I agree with you that the system 
tester prior to 8.0 was fairly useless.  Equis has made some nice 
improvements with 8.0 in allowing you to program in intra-bar exits.  They 
have also expanded the output information that you get from the tests and allow 
you to keep all the past tests (so you can go back and compare the results of 
changes you made to old tests).
 
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>In terms of working in Excel, is there any way to plot the buy/sell & 
exits back onto MS charts once you have them?  To me this visual check in 
MS is critical.  I always go back to the charts and see if my formulas are 
working.  Thus, for example, if I want a stop out if price crosses the 
20 EMA, then I go back and see if this is working.  I know you could go 
back and do this in Excel but I would rather look at a picture of a chart than a 
series of numbers.  
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Good 
Trading,
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Joe 
J.

  <FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Kevin Barry 
  [mailto:kevin_barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 
  4:13 AMTo: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
  [Metastockusers] General Remoarks On MS System 
  TesterAm I missing something or am I the only one to 
  think that the MS System Tester is perfectly useless?The only 
  available entry/exit options (up to v7.2 anyway) are Open, Close, High, 
  Low. Surely what is required in order to reflect real life is the option 
  to enter or exit a trade at a specific intraday price. For example, if you 
  are a swing trader like myself, you may want to enter a trade a tick above 
  yesterday's high or, say, when the price crosses a moving average. Does 
  anybody really use the high/low options for entry/exit testing? If you do, 
  your systems will backtest brilliantly.IMO, the other major 
  shortcoming is the inability to enter a second trade before the previous 
  one has been closed. Once again, this is unrepresentative of real life 
  where one may wish, say, to add to an existing position if the move 
  continues in one's favour.I now use Excel for all of my system 
  testing. Tests are pretty easy to set up and you can plot equity curves 
  and lots more besides. Excel formulas for practically all of the Metastock 
  indicators are widely available on the web. You can either copy and paste 
  MS data into your spreadsheet or there is a great little package called 
  Metalib that enables you to read Metastock data into Excel in batch mode 
  thereby performing one, or several, system tests on several equities at 
  the same time. I found Peter Zierl at Metalib to be extremely helpful when 
  I was initially setting it up for myself.Nearly all of the other 
  testing requirements that I have seen mentioned in this forum can easily 
  be realised using Excel. I hope that this may be of some help to the 
  Group.End Testing Misery Now!Regards,Kevin  
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