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Subject: metastock-digest V1 #1598


metastock-digest       Thursday, July 25 2002       Volume 01 : Number
1598




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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:43:43 -0400
From: "Jeremy Berkovits" <jberkovits1@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Karnish StoRSI

Steve,
  
Thanks for the formula.  

When you trade this system what stop loss parameters do you use? Have
you ever traded it against NASDAQ 100 futures?

Thanks again for the info.

Jeremy,
 

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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:09:31 -0600
From: "Steve Karnish" <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: QQQ/StoRSI

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List(s),

I will try to answer as many of the publicly posted messages later in =
the day.  We are in the middle of the most exciting grain markets in ten
=
years and my time is being "chewed up" by my grain producing traders.

A couple general comments on the StoRSI/QQQ approach: =20

1.  This will not trade 1997, 1897, or any other distant history very =
well.  The things that you read in most books are utter bullshit =
(pertaining to testing out of sample for 'x' number of years...going =
back to 1957).  I'm not picking a fight and I refuse to discuss or =
defend my statement (we've been down that road before).  It is what it =
is.  Always concentrate on what has happened during the last two years =
and be flexible and inventive enough to monitor and understand how =
market dynamics are changing. =20

2.  One way to improve on the results of this "skeleton system" is to =
apply a "filter".  DT has provided excellent contributions on how one =
might accomplish this.  I'm a very "simple-minded" guy who applies very
=
basic approaches.  I believe that makes my trading more robust than a =
lot approaches with a lot of "whistles and bells" added =
(over-optimizations). =20

Filter suggestions:  Try only taking an "opening" position in the QQQ =
when the 13 (21, or your number of choice) SMA is pointing in the =
direction of your trade.  Sounds too simple, right?  You can apply the =
same approach by using any number of linear regression tools.  Pick a =
"trend identifier" (and believe me, trend is the hardest thing to wrap =
your arms around), and only trade in the direction of the trend.  Yes, =
it's that easy.  Eliminate the "stinkin" trades that were initiated =
against the trend.  A 13 day SMA is a starting point and with the =
ability to "optimize" using AB, you can identify many averages that =
should improve the overall performance and keep you (most times) on the
=
right side of the market.

Sorry, must get back to the grains... they are cookin' in the fields and
=
cookin' on the CBOT.

Take care,

Steve Karnish, CTA
Cedar Creek Trading
www.cedarcreektrading.com
1-877-668-1125

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>List(s),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will try to answer as many of the =
publicly posted=20
messages later in the day.&nbsp; We are in the middle of the most =
exciting grain=20
markets in ten years and my time is being "chewed up" by my grain =
producing=20
traders.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A couple general comments on the =
StoRSI/QQQ=20
approach:&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1.&nbsp; This will not trade 1997, =
1897, or any=20
other distant history very well.&nbsp; The things that you read in most
=
books=20
are utter bullshit (pertaining to testing out of sample for 'x' number =
of=20
years...going back to 1957).&nbsp; I'm not picking&nbsp;a fight and I =
refuse to=20
discuss or defend my statement (we've been down that road before).&nbsp;
=
It is=20
what it is.&nbsp; Always concentrate on what has happened during the =
last two=20
years and be flexible and inventive enough to monitor and understand how
=
market=20
dynamics are changing.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2.&nbsp; One way to improve on the =
results of this=20
"skeleton system" is to apply a "filter".&nbsp; DT has provided =
excellent=20
contributions on how one might accomplish this.&nbsp; I'm a very =
"simple-minded"=20
guy who applies very basic approaches.&nbsp; I believe that makes my =
trading=20
more robust than a lot approaches with a lot of "whistles and bells" =
added=20
(over-optimizations).&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Filter suggestions:&nbsp; Try only =
taking an=20
"opening" position in the QQQ when the 13 (21, or&nbsp;your number of =
choice)=20
SMA is pointing in the direction of your trade.&nbsp; Sounds too simple,
=

right?&nbsp; You can apply the same approach by using any number of =
linear=20
regression tools.&nbsp; Pick a "trend identifier" (and believe me, trend
=
is the=20
hardest thing to wrap your arms around), and only trade in the direction
=
of the=20
trend.&nbsp; Yes, it's that easy.&nbsp; Eliminate the "stinkin" trades =
that were=20
initiated against the trend.&nbsp; A 13 day SMA is a starting point and
=
with the=20
ability to "optimize" using AB, you can identify many averages =
that&nbsp;should=20
improve the overall performance and keep you (most times) on the right =
side of=20
the market.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry, must get back to the grains... =
they are=20
cookin' in the fields and cookin' on the CBOT.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Take care,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve Karnish, CTA<BR>Cedar Creek =
Trading<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>www.cedarcreektrading.com</A><
B=
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:59:19 +0200
From: Lars Widlund <Lars.Widlund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Karnish StoRSI

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Here is the formula for Metastock for the StoRSI. I have made it so we
can change timeperiods of RSI and MA´s and also so that we can change
the type of MA´s.
Lars.

RSIPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for RSI",2,300,8);
HLPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for HHV and LLV",2,300,8);
MAPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for Moving Average",2,300,3);
mat:= Input(" MA Typ,S,E,W,T",1,4,2);{1=S,2=E,3=W,4=T}

If(mat=1,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Period),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,S)*100),

If(mat=2,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Period),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,E)*100),

If(mat=3,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Period),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,W)*100),

If(mat=4,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Period),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,T)*100),0))))

Steve Karnish wrote:

> List, Last December, I presented my StoRSI indicator to the Fort
> Collins Market Technicians Association (a group that gets together to
> drink beer and eat Mexican food...at an Irish Pub).  At the time, I
> had been trading the system for approximately a year.  It has
> continued to trade profitably during the past six months "slide to
> hell".  For those who might of missed previous post, the guts of the
> system are attached.  Sorry, but I can only provide MetaStock code.
> All trades are initiated on the opening, the day following the
> signal. Take care, Steve Karnish, CTA
> Cedar Creek Trading
> www.cedarcreektrading.com
> 1-877-668-1125

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Here is the formula for Metastock for the StoRSI. I have made it so we
can change timeperiods of RSI and MA&acute;s and also so that we can
change
the type of MA&acute;s.
<br>Lars.
<p>RSIPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for RSI",2,300,8);
<br>HLPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for HHV and LLV",2,300,8);
<br>MAPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for Moving Average",2,300,3);
<br>mat:= Input(" MA Typ,S,E,W,T",1,4,2);{1=S,2=E,3=W,4=T}
<p>If(mat=1,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(
RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,S)*100),
<br>If(mat=2,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI
(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,E)*100),
<br>If(mat=3,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI
(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,W)*100),
<br>If(mat=4,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI
(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,T)*100),0))
))
<p>Steve Karnish wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>List,</font></font>&nbsp;<font
face="Arial"><font size=-1>Last
December, I presented my StoRSI indicator to the Fort Collins Market
Technicians
Association (a group that gets together to drink beer and eat Mexican
food...at
an Irish Pub).&nbsp; At the time, I had been trading the system for
approximately
a year.&nbsp; It has continued to trade profitably during the past six
months "slide to hell".&nbsp; For those who might of missed previous
post,
the guts of the system are attached.&nbsp; Sorry, but I can only provide
MetaStock code.&nbsp; All trades are initiated on the opening, the day
following the signal.</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font
size=-1>Take
care,</font></font>&nbsp;<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Steve Karnish,
CTA</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Cedar Creek Trading</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><a
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>www.cedarcreektrading.com</a></f
ont></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font
size=-1>1-877-668-1125</font></font></blockquote>

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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:42:29 -0700
From: Larry <amernick@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Karnish StoRSI

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Steve!
How do youy write this indicator in Metastock  "expert" mode?

Lars Widlund wrote:

> Here is the formula for Metastock for the StoRSI. I have made it so we
> can change timeperiods of RSI and MA´s and also so that we can change
> the type of MA´s.
> Lars.
>
> RSIPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for RSI",2,300,8);
> HLPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for HHV and LLV",2,300,8);
> MAPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for Moving Average",2,300,3);
> mat:= Input(" MA Typ,S,E,W,T",1,4,2);{1=S,2=E,3=W,4=T}
>
> If(mat=1,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPer
>
od))/(HHV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPerio
d,S)*100),
>
>
If(mat=2,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Period),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,E)*100),
>
>
If(mat=3,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Period),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,W)*100),
>
>
If(mat=4,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Period),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,T)*100),0))))
>
> Steve Karnish wrote:
>
>> List, Last December, I presented my StoRSI indicator to the Fort
>> Collins Market Technicians Association (a group that gets together
>> to drink beer and eat Mexican food...at an Irish Pub).  At the time,
>> I had been trading the system for approximately a year.  It has
>> continued to trade profitably during the past six months "slide to
>> hell".  For those who might of missed previous post, the guts of the
>> system are attached.  Sorry, but I can only provide MetaStock code.
>> All trades are initiated on the opening, the day following the
>> signal. Take care, Steve Karnish, CTA
>> Cedar Creek Trading
>> www.cedarcreektrading.com
>> 1-877-668-1125
>

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Steve!
<br>How do youy write this indicator in Metastock&nbsp; "expert" mode?
<p>Lars Widlund wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Here is the formula for Metastock for the StoRSI.
I have made it so we can change timeperiods of RSI and MA&acute;s and
also
so that we can change the type of MA&acute;s.
<br>Lars.
<p>RSIPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for RSI",2,300,8);
<br>HLPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for HHV and LLV",2,300,8);
<br>MAPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for Moving Average",2,300,3);
<br>mat:= Input(" MA Typ,S,E,W,T",1,4,2);{1=S,2=E,3=W,4=T}
<p>If(mat=1,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(
RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,S)*100),
<br>If(mat=2,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI
(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,E)*100),
<br>If(mat=3,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI
(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,W)*100),
<br>If(mat=4,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI
(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,T)*100),0))
))
<p>Steve Karnish wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>List,</font></font>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Last December, I presented my StoRSI
indicator
to the Fort Collins Market Technicians Association (a group that gets
together
to drink beer and eat Mexican food...at an Irish Pub).&nbsp; At the
time,
I had been trading the system for approximately a year.&nbsp; It has
continued
to trade profitably during the past six months "slide to hell".&nbsp;
For
those who might of missed previous post, the guts of the system are
attached.&nbsp;
Sorry, but I can only provide MetaStock code.&nbsp; All trades are
initiated
on the opening, the day following the signal.</font></font> <font
face="Arial"><font size=-1>Take
care,</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Steve Karnish,
CTA</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Cedar Creek Trading</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1><a
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>www.cedarcreektrading.com</a></f
ont></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font
size=-1>1-877-668-1125</font></font></blockquote>
</blockquote>

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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:24:47 -0500
From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Off topic

This is msn.com cartoon site.
 http://slate.msn.com//default.aspx?id=2057622

The cartoons are mostly pertinent and are grouped by topics.

Lionel Issen

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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:54:34 +1000
From: "Peter Anderson" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: StoRSI

Could someone please advise what the suggested figures are for the rsi
etc

RSIPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for RSI",2,300,8);
HLPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for HHV and LLV",2,300,8);
MAPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for Moving Average",2,300,3);
mat:= Input(" MA Typ,S,E,W,T",1,4,2);{1=S,2=E,3=W,4=T}

If(mat=1,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Peri
od),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,S)*100),
If(mat=2,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Peri
od),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,E)*100),
If(mat=3,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Peri
od),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,W)*100),
If(mat=4,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Peri
od),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,T)*100),0))))


Regards


Peter Anderson
peter@xxxxxxxxxx

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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:06:13 +0200
From: "Theo Lockefeer" <sky40912@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Off topic

Hello Lionel :

Thanks for this badly needed humour :)

If you had send this email in 2000 : i suppose
everybody would have said : where is Lionel talking about
....................
Change can happen quickly :)

Greetings from rainy Belgium

Theo

P.s.1   Does anybody know if it is possible to download
          the VIX indicator chart from Reuters Datalink
          or is it possible to create it with a Metastock formula ?

P.s. 2 :  This VIX indicator is now CRYING : BUY BUY BUY
            and there are some experts expecting a hughe
            run up of the DOW  (7800 (?)   8400 (?)




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From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:24 PM
Subject: Off topic


>
> This is msn.com cartoon site.
>  http://slate.msn.com//default.aspx?id=2057622
>
> The cartoons are mostly pertinent and are grouped by topics.
>
> Lionel Issen
>

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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:13:31 +0200
From: Lars Widlund <Lars.Widlund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: StoRSI

Steven had 8 days for RSI and HHV/LLV and 3 days for the MA. As I have
written
in the formula.

Lars

Peter Anderson wrote:

> Could someone please advise what the suggested figures are for the rsi
etc
>
> RSIPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for RSI",2,300,8);
> HLPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for HHV and LLV",2,300,8);
> MAPeriod:= Input("Enter periods for Moving Average",2,300,3);
> mat:= Input(" MA Typ,S,E,W,T",1,4,2);{1=S,2=E,3=W,4=T}
>
>
If(mat=1,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Peri
> od),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,S)*100),
>
If(mat=2,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Peri
> od),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,E)*100),
>
If(mat=3,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Peri
> od),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,W)*100),
>
If(mat=4,(Mov((RSI(RSIPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod))/(HHV(RSI(RSI
Peri
> od),HLPeriod)-LLV(RSI(RSIPeriod),HLPeriod)),MAPeriod,T)*100),0))))
>
> Regards
>
> Peter Anderson
> peter@xxxxxxxxxx

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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:24:47 -0500
From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Off topic

This is msn.com cartoon site.
 http://slate.msn.com//default.aspx?id=2057622

The cartoons are mostly pertinent and are grouped by topics.

Lionel Issen

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:48:50 -0000
From: "Yngvi Hardarson" <hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: VIX etc.

Theo.

1. I don't think the VIX has a theoretical upper limit.
2. In 1987 it went to 172.79.
3. The VIX history back to 1986 can be downloaded
   in Excel format at
   http://www.cboe.com/MktData/vix.asp
   I don't think the Reuters Datalink history
   goes that far back.
4. There are experts of various opinions.

Take care,
Yngvi Hardarson
hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Theo Lockefeer
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 06:06
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Off topic





Hello Lionel :

Thanks for this badly needed humour :)

If you had send this email in 2000 : i suppose
everybody would have said : where is Lionel talking about
....................
Change can happen quickly :)

Greetings from rainy Belgium

Theo

P.s.1   Does anybody know if it is possible to download
          the VIX indicator chart from Reuters Datalink
          or is it possible to create it with a Metastock formula ?

P.s. 2 :  This VIX indicator is now CRYING : BUY BUY BUY
            and there are some experts expecting a hughe
            run up of the DOW  (7800 (?)   8400 (?)




- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:24 PM
Subject: Off topic


>
> This is msn.com cartoon site.
>  http://slate.msn.com//default.aspx?id=2057622
>
> The cartoons are mostly pertinent and are grouped by topics.
>
> Lionel Issen
>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:47:59 -0000
From: "Yngvi Hardarson" <hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: VIX etc.

Theo.

1. I don't think the VIX has a theoretical upper limit.
2. In 1987 it went to 172.79.
3. The VIX history back to 1986 can be downloaded
   in Excel format at
   http://www.cboe.com/MktData/vix.asp
   I don't think the Reuters Datalink history
   goes that far back.
4. There are experts of various opinions.

Take care,
Yngvi Hardarson
hardy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Theo Lockefeer
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 06:06
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Off topic





Hello Lionel :

Thanks for this badly needed humour :)

If you had send this email in 2000 : i suppose
everybody would have said : where is Lionel talking about
....................
Change can happen quickly :)

Greetings from rainy Belgium

Theo

P.s.1   Does anybody know if it is possible to download
          the VIX indicator chart from Reuters Datalink
          or is it possible to create it with a Metastock formula ?

P.s. 2 :  This VIX indicator is now CRYING : BUY BUY BUY
            and there are some experts expecting a hughe
            run up of the DOW  (7800 (?)   8400 (?)




- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:24 PM
Subject: Off topic


>
> This is msn.com cartoon site.
>  http://slate.msn.com//default.aspx?id=2057622
>
> The cartoons are mostly pertinent and are grouped by topics.
>
> Lionel Issen
>

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